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Greenlanders Reject Trump With 85% Majority Against Joining US

www.bloomberg.com Greenlanders Reject Trump With 85% Against Joining US

Greenland’s population is overwhelmingly against leaving the Danish realm in favor of the US, dealing a blow to President Donald Trump’s insistence the island is keen to join.

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"Please, America. Take away our healthcare. Not just for us, but for our descendants!"

Concerning that it wasn't 100.
- It seems to be a pretty consistent rule around the world that about 1/3 of people are complete morons. Only 15% being for it is probably a good sign.
  
  In commercial/political polling, they call it the lizard man constant. 5% will always agree, even if the question is something like "are you a lizard man".
  Only 15% is a resounding rejection, honestly. The media was making it sound like there was actual mainstream debate within Greenland.
  
  If you read the article, 9% are undecided.
  Only 6% were for it.
  
  There's always going to be 1/3 who are dumber than the other 2/3's, or in this case ~15%!
  
  Pity that the stat is higher than 50% in the US.
- 6% were in favor.
  
  I'm surprised it was that high.
- Nah, like 20% of people everywhere are just dumb as rocks - in the US it looks like it's grown to be at least 35%... but there's no place on earth free of idiots.
  Oh also, there's some small percentage of people that are just edgelords.... whether you count these people as idiots is probably determined by how recently you were a teenager (yes, we were all dumb once)
- I can't think of a single thing that 100% of people from any decently sized group will agree on. Some will just pick the opposite to be contrarian. Some just don't care.
  
  The Lizardman Constant is about 4%. So that leaves 11% unaccounted for.
  
  Yeah, you get some silly answers from a small percent of the population, like this one:
  Seven percent of all American adults believe that chocolate milk comes from brown cows, according to a nationally representative online survey commissioned by the Innovation Center of U.S. Dairy.
- Might be because Trump threatened them.
  
  Almost every european state has the far-right cancer (to varying degree, but nowadays unfortunately often 2 percent digits), which AFAICS are pro-Trump. I don't think it's any different in Greenland...
- I'm not sure I'd trust the results at all if they said 100% of people polled voted the same way...

If you leave out the 9% of undecided voters, the poll is 93.4% against joining the US.
But the poll is also just a representative sample of 497 people, just about 0.88% of the greenland population. So an actual vote might be very different. The poll claims to have an uncertainty between "1.9 and 4.4 percentage points", so the result could be as high as 98% against joining the US

I’m surprised that it wasn’t higher

Maybe one day the people in the USA will reject the malignant tumor named Donald Trump
- The only positive thing about Trump really is, that he's old, and with his lifestyle may not live that long anymore.
  But even then, the damage he's already done, and does in the future may prove to be permanent for the foreseeable future...
  
  JD Vance is waiting on the wings.
  Anyways, it's not Trump making these decisions. He's just signing whatever the Heritage Foundation puts in front of him. Trump isn't even capable of actually writing an executive order.
  
  He's too vital to hope for a biological solution anytime soon.
  
  Terrible people live long, Strom Thurmond lived to be a hundred
  If you are a religious person the following from the Quran might provide some comfort:
  And let not the disbelievers think that Our postponing of their punishment is good for them. We postpone the punishment only so that they may increase in sinfulness. And for them is a disgracing torment. (3:178)
- Imagine getting Eric or Don Jr as president

fuck, i'm IN the u.s. and i'm against joining the u.s.
- Can we leave and join Denmark?

I would take Danish residence over US residence, too.

Can we join Greenland instead? If they’re majorly rejecting trump then they’re smarter than the majority of voters in the US.

Next up: Trump declares Greenland a terrorist organization
- Just "clean Geenland out", I guess.
  
  Nuke Nuuk.

For those who want to read longer, the original article in Berlingske. Not paywalled:
https://www.berlingske.dk/politik/new-poll-shows-overwhelming-majority-of-greenlanders-reject-trump

I hope they’re not forced to join us anyway…

WTF is wrong with the other 15%
- Probably people who think there is a financial benefit to them if it were to happen
  
  Good odds Trump would fully deport the entire population.
- It's those homeless guys they bought dinner for
  
  Exactly, it's like fifteen idiots in a diner.

I think they would just ignore Trump. It's bad for your health to answer to such people like him. He's a narcissist.

Who are those 5% ?
- There's 6% wanting to leave Denmark, but that's not necessarily joining the US. There has been a minor independence movement, but never really got traction.
  Another 9% polled as "undecided".
- You mean 15%?
  
  6% actually
- That's the lizardman constant

I'm shocked that it's that low.
Edit: Oh, hang on.
Note: The poll conducted by Verian had 497 web interviews Jan. 22-26, among representative samples of Greenlandic citizens aged 18 or older. Statistical uncertainty on the responses is about 3.1 percentage points.
So this is meaningless.
- There's only about 56,000 people in Greenland. While the standard is 1,000 people in a sample at some point you start having difficulty getting to 1,000.

WHY IS ANYONE TAKING THIS BULLSHIT SERIOUSLY‽
- The fact that the US has a blithering idiot for a president needs to be taken very seriously.
  
  The evil, detrimental shit he's actually doing is what should be taken seriously. Not this smokescreen bullshit that's meant to distract. And yet here we are going so far as to take polls for the daily slot it now has in every newscast....
- Because the US has a history of buying islands form Denmark — that's where the US Virgin Islands come from.
- So..why do you think its bullshit? Trump was talking about this last time so it doesnt seem like one of his usual distractions and lies. Seems like he actually wants to take it. Every once in a while one of his series of lies is true.
- If you're Denmark, you don't have the luxury of ignoring this. Trump will escalate this before it's resolved. My guess is he'll order the military to stop paying for the US military base in Greenland, start operations that exceed what is in the agreement, and basically try to provoke a response to use as pretense for further escalation. It's already gone too far for Trump to just back down.

That only needed a 2-word headline.

I’m surprised this actually went for a vote but good on the government for upholding democracy and giving people the chance to have their say.
- It was a poll, not a vote.

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