Gay men can train as priests but must be celibate, say Italian bishops
Move marks shift in views but sexually active gay men will not be admitted to Roman Catholic seminaries
Pope Francis was forced to apologise in May last year for using an offensive slur during a discussion with bishops about admitting gay men into seminaries.
This has always been the way. If you're super Catholic and really believe that stuff, realizing you're gay means you aren't going to have a bunch of kids with a wife and feel fulfilled. It's a "challenge from God" and you decide the only acceptable course of action is to assume you can be celibate for the next 80 years and make your family proud.
Then oops! You're so repressed you diddle kids.
The movie "Doubt" covers this pretty well.
Source: was raised Catholic and knew two very religious closeted gay men that became priests. I don't want to suggest that being gay is wrong or that gay men are more likely to diddle kids, but I am suggesting that sexual repression causes sexual problems, Catholicism is stupid for enforcing celibacy past the 1700s, and all religion is a lie. Fite me irl, bro.
Is celibacy really that difficult? I've never had sex and I don't feel like it's particularly a problem... once in a while it's frustrating, but lots of things about life are occasionally frustrating. I actually think if I felt like I had a good reason, instead of "I just don't feel like meeting people," it would be less frustrating, because I could tell myself I was doing it for God or whatever instead of just being a recluse.
It's less of the celibate part and more of the "repress who you are" part
Eh, celibacy is one of those things that's as difficult as the nature of the person makes it.
I'd be fucking miserable being celibate. The only time in my life I have been, it was brushed because of significant health issues, and it was still difficult, though not as bad as it could be.
But I know people that are fine not only never having sex, but not even masturbating. It just isn't something they care about.
But, when the reason you're celibate is because you're forced to bury your sexuality gay, straight, bi, or otherwise, that's not just frustrating. Doesn't matter if you have a good motivation, the fact that it isn't really a choice grinds people down. It's an external thing that says no fucky-fucky for you.
Sounds like you're a bit on the ace spectrum. Nothing wrong with that, but yes, most people find celibacy difficult.
For this topic, I think there's an extra layer on top of that where it's not just celibacy, it's an active denial of your sexuality, to an extent.
Disclaimer: I'm not celibate.
I think, the real difficulties emerge when presented with opportunity. This is why some people, who didn't think they would, cheat on their partners and some actually regret it. It can take a lot of willpower to refuse to have sex, because it's genetically ingrained in most people. Every single one of their thousands of ancestors had sex for them to exist today.
So ...... no changes then.
gay men:
I thought celibacy was required of priests. After googling, I think I'm wrong. Then I googled some more, and apparently it's against the bible& celibacy is required.
So I don't trust Google.
Regardless, this requirement is ridiculous.
Most christian denominations don't require celibacy, but Catholicism, which is headed by the Pope, does.
Unless you are a married Anglican priest who converts to Catholicism. They are allowed to remain married and presumably have sex while continuing their priestly functions.
So, the "Poophole loophole" doesn’t work if it’s two dudes. That's discrimination and seems pretty on par for the worst religious organization on Earth.
Who wants all these rules, made by bigots. Yeah, go join that...
"Because my invisible friend says homosexuality is not allowed!"
Sure, just like all the pedo priests who remain celibate.
They need scapegoats
Uhh ... pretty sure all priests are already supposed to be celibate, why are you mentioning this?
Gay men...train priests.
I want to see that train. Got a vid?
The rarely seen combo of stereotyping gay men as promiscuous, and not knowing the difference between nouns and verbs, resulting in a top contender for all-time worst attempt at equivocation-based humor.
Why do you assume a train is promiscuous?
Celibate means Lil boys only, to the church
Just a bunch of holy boys getting together up at the seminary. 💦
