Allyship rule

I agree with speaking with your actions here, but at the same time, this seems like some weirdly unnecessary gatekeeping.

Counterpoint: you can absolutely self identify as an Ally. For example, I self identity as an Ally and there ain’t shit this adorable platypus can do to stop me.

I’m an Ally because I choose to be, by my words and my actions and the example I set for my children every day. I don’t need an attaboy from any marginalized group to confirm I’m on the right side of history. We do what’s right because it’s right. Full stop.

Before I realized and came out as bi, I was in the GSA (gay-straight alliance) in high school as a "straight." My state was voting to ban gay marriage at the time, and we campaigned against it. I got just as much if not more hate from people than the LGBT members. Maybe because they viewed them as a lost cause? It was usually adults yelling at a 17-year-old kid for being a "betrayer" and a "pervert lover" (I liked that one), just because I supported two consenting adults marrying regardless of gender. Staunch allies definitely earn the title.

This sentiment is pretty much why the progressive movement is fucked.

The right leans hard into meme warfare, using whatever propaganda opportunities they can.

Meanwhile the left has endless debates about the purity of their efforts.

We’re so fucked.

I got mine from the Emperor of Gay People in the mail just this Friday. I framed it and put it next to my n-word pass on the mantle.

Divide and conquer is a strategy as old as time. Can’t fault you for trying.

Slightly unrelated rant.

I'm tried of these culture wars. It's complete nonsense. I'm not particularly LGBT+ but it shouldn't matter. This is about freedom for fucks sake! People just want to live and exercise their human rights! Anybody telling others they mustn't exist their way is an enemy of humanity! The fact that people get denied jobs and even have their rights restricted, just because some asshole finds out the ID doesn't match is fucking repulsive!

Recently had a chat with my aunt and she just "you can't expect people to immediately accept changes", shut the fuck up! It's not a change! It's a core value that's been in our constitution for longer than any of us have been alive. But clearly, despite being raise on these values, I'm the only one who believes them. Like some fucking santa claus shit!

I've had people misgender me and try to convince me not to transition and then go claim to be trans allies because they don't call people slurs and will say that killing trans people is bad if asked

Help us out though, what can we do to be better allies? I try to be a good one, but I don't know if I'm coming up short.

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it can be as simple as flying a rainbow flag

Oh, wow, so many questions! Is that the new tactic? Tell folks they can't be free to identify how they feel now? Gee, I don't see that going well for acceptance becoming common place but, whatta I know? Seems kinda on par with having been told, "... you don't get to choose your gender, god does..."

How do we get or give these official "ally" titles to pass out? Do they need to be notarized or is there another way to make sure they are genuine? Is there a checklist or website available to ensure worthiness before certifying an ally? Is there a membership cost? Are all lgbtq+ folks allowed to certify, or only particular groups?

I have sooo many more but those seem important to start and avoid any penalties. ...Oh shit, are there penalty fines??

ITT people are thinking this post is about them, but it feels like it's more targeted at the "The A is for ally!" types. (Thinking A in LGBTQIA is for ally instead of asexual.)

This attitude is why I generally only speak to my sister about trans stuff (she is trans); because even though I support the idea and want to learn more to be more supportive, a good chunk of the time I've been labeled a transphobe. It's the one pattern I recognize with the community that irks me so much. The refusal to answer innocent questions about what shit is like for you, and assuming anyone who isn't trans asking about trans stuff is a transphobe simply begging the question.

We will seemingly never earn the right to be allies so long as we are CIS.

This kind of gatekeeping really pushes away potential allys. Probably not the best kind of rhetoric.

Taking actions to be an Ally has risks for folks in some places. Where I am LBGTQA+ support is the norm and doesn't really need to be spoken and when it is I've never heard anyone in over 10 years say a negative thing.

I have online though seen folks who try to speak up in Allyship of someone else get taken down. Subjected to purity tests by folks in an LGBTQA+ supporting community. It felt like the same bi erasure I've experienced and the same transphobia I've seen from parts of the LG community in the 2000s. It's like saying someone isn't gay if they haven't come out. All it does is lessen the crew.

LGBTQA+ shouldnt be treated as a club with a rainbow dress code. It should be the future default standpoint of all of humanity.

Hmm, I wonder what I managed to accomplish in the womb

Ah yes the famous title that floats over my head like in an MMO /s

Still, this is some weird gatekeeping. If I'm not an ally, I'm neutral, who cares

Wow, this thread had me bringing out the ban hammer a lot!

How dare you accuse me of being an ROG ally. I am clearly a steam deck.

I don't like the "Ally" term. I don't get it. Feminist thinks the equality of man and woman, but the existence of the ally term make a distinction into feminist and allys, that it's just a genre thing. So you are saying there are no equality between male and famele at all.