How do we grow Hexbear?

We need to move further to the right and get a Cheney endorsement.

a person I know irl was asking "what app is that" when they saw the hexbear on my phone and I said it's where the most militantly pro-trans tankie communists post, and they said they'd check it out.

Generally the way a thing grows is by getting visibility elsewhere.

This is achieved in companies by sockpuppet sharing (marketing team intentionally targeting other spaces with re-shares of content), watermarks, advertising, collaborations and generally being edgy enough that people talk about you for the fact your existence is novel.

One of the things this community doesn't do enough of is talk about or share Hexbear outside of Hexbear, like it's some secret or too embarrassing to mention.

One thing I see on tiktok that Hexbear isn't doing is slideshows, there's easy content to produce like "best of hexbear" which is just reposting a slideshow of 4-5 memes, run by an official hexbear account. Reddit does this. It's relatively easy to do this two ways, targeting leftist stuff and targeting trans stuff, "sharing hexbear memes" (trans) is easy trans bait.

By continuously purging and fragmenting all the comms until every user has their own

Here’s my idea: provide resources and help that other spaces aren’t providing. The mutual aid comm is a great example of this, but I’ve also been thinking there’s probably a lot more we could provide especially to trans/queer communities. Some of already started doing great work in this regard but I think it would be cool and useful to start having for more discussions on DIY help for example, but making and sourcing, though we also want to be careful about this and not get unwanted attention. I’d love to hear feedback on this if anyone has any.

I think the fakenews and badposting sections should be banned. There are a lot of people that browse the site on mobile while not logged in and they get bombarded by badpost after badpost that are the lowest of the low when it comes to effort (e.g. "instead of getting swol why don't we get swoletariot????"). Even in this thread someone posted "I post my butt and call the website OnlyButts." Seriously, wtf. If not banned, they should be hidden by default unless explicitly opted into. Just make them NFSW so they don't show up while browsing while logged out.

Also, the site should try to be more like lemmygrad in terms of being serious about things. There are too many posts that just reek of a weird mix of ironic and non-irony. What I mean is, people will be serious when it's a topic they personally are invested in, but on other topics, they just resort to childish toilet humor and say that this is nothing more than a shitposting forum. It's the schrodinger's hexbear: topic I care about = super serious get all mods on defcom4, topic i don't care about = dIdN'T yOu KnOw that this isn't real life, it's just the internet hurrr durr it's a shitposting forum. Imagine all the global south comrades looking in on this. It's just not a good look, and yes what I'm saying is that there should be at least some degree of optics for fuck's sake.

Another thing, people need to take seriously the other pipelines that draw potential comrades away. One serious one is the joe rogan, lonely male pipeline. They may be alienated by capitalism, but on a personal level they are looking for advice on how to maybe get a date or something. Maybe some actual concrete advice (e.g. start hitting the gym, fix your hair, hygiene, conversational tips, actual dating advice). Like Bell Hooks is all good, but we can't just tell people "here read this book, even tho most ppl in society don't really read anymore." Like some actual decent agitprop that isn't READING A FUCKING BOOK OVER 100 PAGES FOR FUCKS SAKE. Like a short tiktok, then transition into shorter youtube vids, and then maybe recommending a book. Most ppl here don't even read communist theory so why such a big ask for potential comrades to do so much investment. I hate to say it, but you gotta use some kind of sales principles like not blasting someone with a huge investment up front without giving anything in return.

Lastly (and there are so many more i'm just tired of typing) the mods shouldn't poo poo this site as a way to organize. They always respond with "this is just a nondescript hole in the wall lefting shitposting site not a subsitute for real life organizing." Motherfucker the reason ppl are here is because they are isolated/alienated and maybe lack the social cirlces (or social skills to create one) to do real life organizing work. And patronizing them by saying "join an org" is just that, patronizing. The stupid ass Jan 6 guys met up due to internet shit, so why not have a disciplined "organizing" comm or something?

Apply chemical fertilizer, till and disc the winter before.

Start the seeds indoors two or three weeks before the last frost date, move them to bigger containers as required.

Plant in the prepared plot and spread mulch.

Use mesh/stakes as needed to support growth.

Keep the plot weed and pest free.

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Raid places and bully Chuds?

I think 2-3 years ago people were putting Hexbear watermarks on a lot of stuff.

What if instead of a dunk tank, we had a "so close to getting it" section where we stumble over each other to brigade the space in question to agitate left-leaning people?

GOOD posts getting reposted on tiktok, Instagram, Reddit - in that order too, maybe?

Very simple.

A struggling theatre near me has refused to spend money on proper internet advertising. They spend most of it on big posters on the London underground. Well, recently one of the cast members made a concerted effort to post about it on tiktok - behind the scenes post, character profiles, mini interviews.

The theatre just had it's first completely sold out run in years.

Everything the tiktok algorithm touches turns into gold.

Then again, perhaps the content doesn't translate well since it's not video. In which case, Reddit and Instagram posts.

I always assumed Hexbear had no desire for growth, if anything it feels uncouth to invite randos to Hexbear for fear of diluting it or libbing it up.

I guess we gotta trust in our mod team

Rich nerds financing podcasts having hexbear name to be read out

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I got here years ago because someone posted a link on reddit. I think it was on r/trueanon. Are people still doing that?

I feel like posting HB links is most effective during periods of decades happening. People want the posts. But the last thing I'm thinking about when things get wild is "I should post HB links on reddit".

I do think that while the shit posting part of this site is great, and honestly what drew me in, it's the effort posts and theory discussion which kept me here. I think this component of this site is lacking promotion. Effort posting gets buried under the nth slop post. It looks like we now have unlimited pinned posts, so maybe pinning a recent effort post for a few days would drive more engagement there and promote that kind of posting more.

I feel like if we did start to market HB or whatever, posting links to effort and theory posts is not a bad idea. While the general vibe here is shitposty (and I think thats generally good because it keeps things casual), there aren't many places on the internet to have in depth theory discussions. I think part of this is there is a kind of ideological consistency here, even if we don't always agree, that provides a nice basis on which to have these discussions.

Idk, I like this site. I would be sad to see it die, but I also don't think it will anytime soon even without much growth.

I’m gonna write to Soros to increase our funding. Maybe we can buy some billboards in Ohio.

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I don't think that Hexbear is going to grow because smaller communities do not exist. What do I mean by this? Hexbear is basically one community and a few smaller communities which are the megathreads, but still basically the same community. Nobody actually takes the time to browse each board individually. If a post doesn't show up on the front page of "all", then it is basically invisible and dies quickly. This limitation means around 15 posts are worthy of engagement at any given moment and half them are engagement bait spam posts.

Communities aren't given the opportunity to form. You have to jump through hoops to create a board and then repeating my previous point, people don't browse individual boards.

Because Hexbear is basically one big comm, many people seem to have the idea that they have to like every post on like a personal preference level. People get mad about the fakenews comm because it doesn't match their taste of humor. There have been many times where I have posted a video on the video board and someone will comment that they didn't watch the video but they're mad about the video or they say they don't watch videos. People who aren't interested in the subject of a board should not post on that board. This kind of behavior is reinforced by lacking individual comms, users only browsing one big comm ie all/active, and lacking moderators for niche interests.

The way that reddit was able to grow is that there are so many niche sub boards with users who have niche interests and moderators who curate the boards because they have the shared interest. If someone posts on a history subreddit that they hate learning about history, then they get banned from that history subreddit.

Hexbear has people with many different personal preferences, who can still overall agree on politics. Some people don't like certain memes or certain videos. If you don't like a certain thing, you can choose to not engage with it.

There is a "fight for the frontpage". Every user is either trying to get on to the frontpage or bullying people for making posts they don't want to see on the frontpage. The solution should be to severely limit the frontpage so that it forces user to find smaller communities that fit their interests. This is already happening with the megathreads, but lemmy is a link aggregator software and is not really designed to work this way. Limit the frontpage to 5-10 "official" comms and hide every other comm from the front page. Hide badposting, fakenews, gossip, slop, etc. People who think fakenews is funny can still browse the comm and nobody gets angry about being tricked. Allow users to make niche comms which do not show up on the front page.

This also would solve the problem of the confusion of which comm posts should be made on. The current way of thinking is that posts should be posted to specific boards based on the assigned topic of the sub board. When people are fighting for the frontpage, they don't put much thought into which board a post is made on because the audience is all the same. If most boards are hidden from the front page, people will choose which board to post a link on depending on which group of people they think will want to see the post.

Others have said similar things, but TikTok/Instagram/YouTube accounts posting short daily "best of" videos or something like that would work well if enough users coordinate to boost the accounts. Could probably even monetize and fund the site or buy drugs.

I don't even think it would be that hard. Pick a format and stick to it, use AI voiceover and captions, and just do slideshows of memes, funny comments, etc. Slowly include Hexbear jokes, explain the lore, drama...people love this kind of shit. There are literally millions of commies on TikTok. I've seen fullblown leftists with over a million followers.

One of the primary reasons I started lurking, then posting on Hexbear a few years ago (this current alt is new) is that it was actually active. Baby communist me very well could have become active on a number of discords, raddle, or lemmygrad but chose to stay on Hexbear due to its high activity. It’s not boring here, you’re not seeing the same posts for weeks and weeks. We must keep posting comrades, don’t let the struggle session get in the way of that.

I mean just spread the link around. Go into other communities and tell them about here.

It'll be very incestuous though since there's no "One Big Leftist Forum" to leech off of all we'd be doing is getting people off other niche communities. Which is fine but it's not all that significant one way or the other.

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Yesterday I was informed by the head mod that "this site has never prioritized growth" and I was like that's news to me I remember people actively adding HB watermarks to memes to spread on , and everyone was encouraged to spread the word about HB to the r/CTH diaspora.

The solution is obvious. We must transition to HeptBear. Adding another vertex is the only way to grow the website. We must keep adding vertices until we approach infinite vertices at which point HexBear will become CircleBear, enclosing including everyone on Earth in it.

Of course this plan carries the risk that there will be a struggle session (perhaps several!) on whether to use Latin or Greek prefixes for Bear which will inevitably cause splits and a loss of vertices. However I think it is a risk worth taking.

Posting more. If you search "intel arc gpu in xcpng" on duckduckgo, hexbear is one of the first results. Search up "how to set up radial menus in vrchat," and hexbear shows up on page one in google. If we simply make more posts, the website will be visible to more people. The more varied the topics of discussion are, the more likely someone is to stumble upon hexbear. Also, making the site more friendly to new users will go a long way. I can't count the number of times I've accidentally clicked on PPB because it is at the bottom of the page. Maybe that shouldn't be something that happens to people who visit the website for the first time.

I've been seeing a lot of users suggesting exposure to hexbear on other social media. I think that besides search, that is the best way for hexbear to expand, since hexbear is embarrassing for many users. Another thing is that one of the places that gives hexbear the most publicity is lemmy.world. If gets users to migrate to lemmy, that means more people finding out about hexbear. And this goes for other websites too, since people leaving xitter will discover the federation as an alternative. Also, these days short form video content is very popular and more engaging for many people than text based content, maybe there could be some federated tik tok alternative or something.

Also the power of the trans userbase on hexbear keeps on growing! Making hexbear a safe space for our trans comrades will help maintain this growth.

Although, maybe the best way to grow hexbear isn't to increase the number of users, but decrease. Ban everyone but bureaucrat, and we shall continue posting under one name, more powerful than ever. This is how we can make hexbear great again.

I don't know that we can or should. I don't think this site will ever work as an organizing space, so there's not utility in growing it. Growing it is going to make modding it more difficult meaning it probably won't be as well curated and we'll have to deal with lib and Chud

I think we should remain a walled garden for lefty shitposting.

How do we grow Hexbear?

By individually inviting cool people we might randomly find around the internet.

We don't need a huge community to be a worthwhile community and it's evident that the staff are struggling to cope with the current pace of posting right now anyway. So we don't need to strategise about growing the site in some systematic way.

Let it happen organically. This isn't a growth-at-any-cost sort of site and every cool site I've been a part of that fell to the impulse to grooow eventually ended up a shitshow full of users who don't know/remember/understand the original purpose of the site, the history behind various rules and site culture etc.

Let corporate owned sites compete for user share. Let us avoid that impulse.

I get the impression we should be thinking more about user RETENTION than anything. This is the first day in a while where I've woken up from a fucked up nightmare, opened "my comfy favourite site" hexbear and then immediately felt a wave of dread at what I might find on the party agenda for the day.

And sure enough another pinned comment, another struggle, more upset users, more shitty bad faith replies to upset users from moderators.

The only growth desirable I see being valuable is in MAYBE federating with other like-minded sites and perhaps networking with similar efforts using different protocols and platforms, like for example matrix servers that share most of our positions and values but not actually administered by the same people who administer hexbear. Just an example. I dunno. I'm tired and grumpy and sad and adding MOAR USERS doesn't assuage any of my fears about the state of affairs here.

why would you want to

The admins and mods could start by stop making broad sweeping changes to the site. Sorry for referencing the recent drama, but newcomers aren't going to want anything to do with us if we're still in dumpster fire mode. Seriously, that shit is so embarrassing. If people want to talk optics, this is optics. Imagine some potential newcomer stumbling upon some tl;dr scree by an admin referencing a subreddit that hasn't existed in almost half a decade. It's intimidating because it gives the impression that the newcomer has to memorize esoteric Hexbear and /r/chapotraphouse lore if they don't want to be eaten alive by the locals.

Form a biker gang called Heck's Bears

And they're all twinks

Trick question. Hexbears grow in the summer to store fat to make it through winter hibernation.

We should try to get more AMA's with notable people (we've had second thought, who else is good?) and trying to get powerful posters here from places like Twitter (slammer? aldanmarki?)

Imo the best way to grow Hexbear is by feeding her more beans

I post my butt and call the website OnlyButts

Who are you looking to have join? What would they be interested in?

Since it seems that many users came here in the wake of their past communities being closed, destroyed, banned, ruined etc, maybe it would make sense to keep an eye open for endangered leftist spaces and give them an invite. These are moments when people are actively searching for new spaces and have space to fill in their lives.

Here is a general purpose list of websites that may soon close: https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Deathwatch

But leftists are always getting kicked out of wherever they are at.

One element of hexbear that the existing users really enjoy and value is the cliquishness. Its a lot of in jokes and references. Constant callbacks to specific threads that happened years ago and either aren't online or aren't findable. Having been here for a year and a half I can mostly follow the main themes but lots of it wooshes past me. People like to pull rank and show how long they've been here. Once you are in a group like this it is extremely comfortable and nice and you feel connected to other people.

I am not saying this as any sort of criticism. It is what it is and overall I like it. but it is inherently difficult to recruit people into such a scene. New users are at a disadvantage. Plus there is the dynamic state of behavioral expectations and current meta discourse.

If the site wanted to make an effort to grow, it would need an idea about how facilitate integration of new users.

I can't imagine a successful recruitment campaign not leading to hella drama. It would inherently change the character of the site.

maybe it shouldn't have visibility? like maybe the reason hexbear exists as it does, with its tacit and built-in leftism is entirely a product of obscurity?

like everytime something gets big, it becomes a threat, if not to profit-seeking competitors simply threatened by the diverted attention, then the ideology being out of step and what is otherwise outside of permissible mainstream discourse.

attention is bad imo

let the people meant to find this place find it, leave everyone else to their bullshit.

Getting rid of the entry barrier would help.

Hijack trans Reddit with links to Hexbear

Hgh: hexbear growth hormone /jk For real though what got me was outreach when r/traa was closing down and some brave soul (I assume somebody here) mentioned hexbear as a leftist alternative to blåhaj zone that's very trans friendly. I missed having r/cth around, so lurking here and eventually making an account was pretty natural. /Srs

Break the flow of treats to the imperial core.

I need to do way better on this but honestly we need to keep posting