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im crying and having a bad time and i feel like i should just leave hexbear after my next fanon post.

people are saying such shitty things about me. ill probably delete this, but can some of my comrades just give me a pep talk if your up to in. I know logically I love this place and this is a bad day, but I cant stop crying, i do so much work going out, doing mutual aid, supporting union drives, working with the dsa and psl ect and it doesn't fucking matter because as soon as I vent about the class of people who are giving me a hard time IM somehow stopping racial solidarity from happening. it hurts so bad and makes everything feel so pointless. i feel so disposable. im not gonna debate anyone i just want to chat with nice comrades who care. im actually crying hard over internet shit maybe its my sign to leave.

edit: THANK YOU for the out pouring of love comrade, here, in my dms, and on cytube. I LOVE YOU GUYS SO MUCH. I will be staying. I will be taking a break after this sundays fanon post (its the last one and BEST chapter hope i can see you there) but I shall return even more powerful than before. you guys are amazing thank you again to everyone committed to making this a safe space for BIPOC people to express themselves.

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  • It is a reality of this site being hugely white by proportion as @AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net mentions, and being confronted about the reality of POC’s life experiences doesn’t always go over well, even here. I understand how it wears one down and can’t blame you at all for feeling this way, but you’ve been a great voice here I think. I hope Hexbear can work on purging this shit because this is the same hostility and dismissal that’s too common outside of spaces that claim to be safe and understanding. And to find the same here…?

    Your posts are always insightful imo. It feels like there aren’t a lot of voices speaking about black experiences and struggles here and I’m glad you’re doing so. It’s not easy to dismiss when you receive it but please don’t let those shitters get you down.

  • To preface this: I am white.

    To any white people who are even slightly upset about anti-white sentiment, ironic or unironic: you need to get the FUCK over yourself. Read The Wretched of the Earth, Open Veins of Latin America, How Europe Underdeveloped Africa, Divided World Divided Class, White Malice, Late Victorian Holocausts, Unequal Exchange, Neo-Colonialism, The Wages of Whiteness, and a thousand other books until it fucking sinks in.

    Every "white" country on Earth (barring maybe a few of the most backward European states) is parasitic. All siphon wealth from the non-white world into the white world, both externally and internally. They then distribute this money, to a very large extent, on the basis of race.

    This means that race is a factor in class. That's why the most useless and anti-revolutionary tendencies of Communism all come out of Europe. You can see this fracture play out in every "white" nation. Even the "radical" white population breaks solidarity with the colonial population. White labor unions rejecting PoC, white Communist parties failing to grasp the race question and behaving chauvinistically, white "radicals" turning against anti-colonial fighters.

    In light of this history, this class dynamic, and the ongoing racial depravity, to chide PoCs for "undermining solidarity" is the height of arrogance and chauvinism. Get the fuck over yourself. Unless you want to hand over the 90% of your material comfort that you owe to the accident of your place of birth and skin color, shut the fuck up.

    • And that's barely even touching on anything superstructural. Given this apparent material base of white parasitism, it's obvious to see why we live in the world of white supremacy that we do. White people have identified, on a conscious or unconscious level, that they effectively constitute a class. The disdain, domination, disgust, discrimination, and disregard that nobles manifest toward their serfs can be seen in the way white people treat PoCs.

      • Given all this, both the morally correct and "historically progressive" position are the same. To bring about global revolution, we must attack the systems of Imperialism, Neo-Colonialism, and Unequal Exchange that have kept the Global South oppressed and the Global North content, and the system of racism that harms and exploits internal colonial populations. Compradors will lose their control, Imperialists will be unable to muster the resources they need for dominance, and white people will suddenly feel quite a lot of urgency in finding an alternative to Capitalism.

        To /u/Othello: you're very cool, I hope you stick around, and I'm sorry for hijacking your post. I hope it's an acceptable subject and perspective.

  • Full disclosure, I'm white, so I don't have any direct experience with racism, but I am trans, disabled, and poor, so I do have some experience with oppression. That said, fuck people who demand oppressed people always remain civil and never express anything negative, lest their precious oppresser fee-fees get hurt. We're allowed to be fucking angry and tired of shit. We should be allowed to fucking vent without worrying about "allies" getting pissy. Solidarity comes from the top down. It needs to be unconditional. And it shouldn't depend on the oppressed being nice to their oppressors.

    Sending you lots of love and solidarity, comrade. trans-heart

  • Fanon is cool and so are you.

    Craackkkers gotta do some self-crit

  • to every :LIB: upset at you discussing whiteness:

    anti-cracker-aktion

    also I hope you reported all those crackers so the mods nuke their asses

  • The fundamental problem is that Hexbear (and the rest of the Anglo social media sites) is it's filled with mayos who have never dealt with people who have skin color darker than a sheet of paper. This is how you get people here making asinine jokes that replacing c/k with kkk is somehow "standard Maoist English." Like, just how fucking out of touch are you? At this point, Hexbear (and every other Lemmy instance where a European language is used) will never not be awkward about race. I don't blame you or any other POC for quitting Hexbear because the amount of mayos is off-putting. I'm not sure how POC accounts can feel welcome here if those racist crackers at that other thread haven't been banned yet. Those bigoted losers would be long gone if they were saying transphobic shit, but they still get to keep their accounts for being racist shitheads. Why the double standard?

    The only way for a POC-friendly social media site to take off is if doxxing your face is build in to the social media site itself, whether through technological or social means. Black Twitter works because there's the social understanding that if your avi isn't your Black face, you're not really Black. Black Reddit works because mods require people to show their arm with their username written on it. Outside of those little pockets where you have to doxx yourself or learning a non-European language in order to use that language's social media sites, there's really no hope for any POC to feel safe or welcome.

  • Who was mean to you I will end them owl-pissed

    • temptest and tuga were the ones who upset me . they got their comments removed now. still hurts. Especially when people accuse me of being white (the worst insult lol) or compare me to nazis in a round about way

  • One poster in particular in that thread can go fuck themselves, but honestly I feel a huge Fuucck all you to the upvoters and other posters whining about "but you're alienating your white allies" bullshit.

    Don't let these assholes drive you out, or define your relationship with yourself, much less this site. Don't internalize your anger, externalize it and know that the problem is them.

    By all means take a break, cool off, or retract from Hexbear a bit and block c/dunk_tank if you must to filter the pornography of outrage.

    Fuck tempest in particular though.

  • ive personally really enjoyed seeing all of your contributions and i feel like you are genuinely trying to make this site a nicer place. idk what went down but id be sad to see you go meow-hug

    it'll probably be good to take a break for bit, which is always nice in its own way. this should be a place where you enjoy spending your time and if that's not happening you should be doing those things instead trans-heart

  • I missed whatever happened earlier, but if anybody on this site has a problem with Fanon then they can fight me (and the same goes for George Jackson)

    • it wasnt fanon they had a problem with it was me. i said that white people who weren't comrades were my enemy in reaction to libs calling for concentration camps. now im being compared to a nazi. the Fanon thing is because im in charge of posting the fanon threads in the theory comm. this sunday is the last one and I would never abscond my responsibility.. if not for me for fanon.

  • To Othello: You are super cool and I really appreciate reading what you have to say. I really appreciate your perspective and all you give to this community. I hope the rest of us can make this a good enough place for you to stay. You deserve a good place where your comrades have your back. [/gen, angry on your behalf, hoping you stay]

    To the white fragile people who were being assholes to Othello,: Raise your fucking standards for yourself. Read. Learn. Don't take out your fragility and big feelings about race on black people. Do you feel upset when a black person expresses feelings about race? Do some reading about the history of racism. Do some emotional work. Don't turn your ignorance and your feelings into a burden for black people. Don't take out your insecurities, your anger, your fragility, your fear on black people. Deal with it yourself. If you don't have the tools, find them. Research. Learn. And if you don't have the energy for that, then shut the fuck up.

    To my fellow white people on this site: We have to do better about defending our black, indigenous, and people of color comrades on this site. Yes, it takes work to learn, it takes time and energy and discomfort and going outside of our comfort zones. But we have to do that work, and we have to do a better job. We have to collectively create a site where our black, indigenous, and people of color comrades feel safe, where they know we'll be there for them and have their backs. It's fun to shitpost, and shitposting is an important part of the culture here too. But we also have to do ongoing work to make it so that when we see racism, we notice it, and call it out. It might take the mods a while to get to delete and ban racism, but we should be there to back our comrades up and make racists feel unwelcome. An important part of leftism is making sure that we have spaces that feel good for our comrades to be in. We need to be able to create and maintain spaces that are supportive. With the federations having happened, there's been somewhat of a focus on bringing leftism to other communities, educating outsiders etc, but we also have to remember that gaining numbers by bringing in outsiders is not the only factor affecting numbers. If we bring in assholes, and then they drive out people from minority groups, then we haven't actually gained anything good. We need to create spaces where our black, indigenous, and people of color comrades can stay. And from my digging to try to figure out what this was all about, it sounds like some (or all? not sure) of the users harassing Othello were from inside hexbear. So we need to do better. We need to go out of our way to do the emotional work, educate ourselves, and actively look for racism on the site so we can stamp it out.

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