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The Privacy Raccoon - Digital self-defense against mass surveillance

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Recommendations — The Privacy Raccoon

For transparency sake, I'm the new maintainer of this website. Just wanted to share it here. I was thinking of creating a community for it, but I don't know if it is worth it.

I hope someone find it useful. If you want to contribute, collaborate or just share your opinion, you're more than welcome! The repository for the website is here https://codeberg.org/ThePrivacyRaccoon/website

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You say that one of the services "recommend[s] Thunderbird which is spyware and bloated." This is the first I'm hearing about this. Can you cite a source? If this is true, I have some juggling to do.
- Edit: read here https://privacy.awiki.org/fake-privacy-initiatives/thunderbird.html not as in depth as I would have liked it, but I'll do for now
  It is easy to check by yourself by reading their privacy policy and analyzing the automatic connections that Thunderbird makes using Wireshark or mitmproxy.
  I can't find any in depth analysis right now, I might have to write it myself. But this page, although a bit outdated, gives some information about it:
  https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/thunderbird
  Thunderbird has also been vulnerable to a lot of email attacks because it has JavaScript enabled by default. See efail for the most notable one.
  The email client that is recommended, Claws Mail, does not make any automatic connection and by default has no HTML renderer which improves security.
  Edit: forgot to mention that Thunderbird supports cookies, which IMO are totally unnecessary for a email client and just add another way of tracking the user.
  
  It would easy for a technical individual, maybe, but not to the layman, which is the person that privacytoolsio was designed for. I appreciate the link, by the way.
  A small suggestion: if you're going to make a statement, such as "Thunderbird which is spyware and bloated", you should add sources that helped you come to this conclusion. Making a statement without citing your sources, isn't super helpful, as we don't know you and whether you're actually knowledgeable or more like those "covid shots have nanobot tracers" people. Regardless, super nice repo! It seems like a labor of love, and I really appreciate you sharing it. I look forward to how it develops.
  
  Thunderbird also is very user friendly and is full of functionality
Don't forget opnsense for router firmware
- There are already a lot of router firmware options, I considered it, but I thought that pfsense offers almost the same things.
  Any feature that makes opnsense preferable over pfsense? I have experience with pfsense only.
  
  Opnsense has an arguably better UI, and more frequent updates.
  You can look into the drama about the pfsense devs when opnsource forked it but the tldr is the pfsense devs were openly hostile in a variety of unprofessional and uncalled for ways to opnsense.
  More recently, pfsense devs rushed the wire guard integration which turned out to be so problematic that the wire guard devs had to publicly comment that it shouldn't be included inorder to prevent it from shipping. One of the reasons why opnsense forked a few years prior was due to bad code quality of pfsense.
  Also my two cents, if you're going to create this list to benefit the community and you don't want to include too many options, then you'll need to make informed decisions on which projects to include and why. Relying on the community is fine, and crowed sourcing knowledge is powerful, but don't ignore large projects without researching them
I just want to say that all of your efforts put into this are not going unrecognized. This is really awesome.
It's even so organized too. If I could make recommendations in the future, I'd look at private OS' designed for smart watches. And I might've missed it, but I was curious about your opinion on pine devices, and Ubuntu Touch.
- thank you so much! It's been a fun run to put everything together. There's still a lot to do, but I'm getting closer to the point I want the website to be.
  I don't know a lot about private smart whatches since I don't own one, but I'll make a note to take a look at it. I appreciate the feedback.
For OS you should add https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Qubes
- it's already there, just below Linux Mint. I mention that Qubes is best used with Whonix. I didn't have that link tho, I'll add later, thanks!!
I see you recommend Mulch instead of Bromite. Have you considered Cromite?
- oh I know about Cromite, but it's pretty new and I'm waiting to see if the project lasts and if it's well maintained. Mulch has been around for longer so I opted for recommending that for now.
  
  Okay. Just wanted to mention it since I'm pretty sure the team behind Mulch recommend using Bromite instead (last I checked at least).
- Bromite got shut down or something too. I mean it hasn't been updated in a while.
  
  Yeah, Mulch devs recommended using Bromite as far as I remember and Cromite is an up to date fork. That's why I mentioned it specifically.
This is great!
- thanks! I'm glad someone found it useful.
Okay so I've updated the website based on everyone's feedback. Thanks for your comments!
I disagree with a lot of the software listed but I respect the effort
- Like what?
What's wrong with tuta?
- they don't support email clients, just their own. They don't support PGP encryption, just their own and because it's done with JavaScript, no matter if in the web client or their "desktop" client (which is still the web), could be injected with malicious scripts and steal the encryption key and send it to their servers.
  Oh and it blocks VPNs and Tor registration:
Are you open to contributing without needing to open a Codeberg account (or sign in with Github/lab)?
- of course, you can send me your contributions through email if you wish. But it's better to talk about them a bit, just to make sure we don't disagree and don't waste anyone's time.
  
  Yes agree it's much better to discuss first! I just wanted to send in a couple of patches for typos initially :)
I saw thw "Shadow wiki" link on the side, went to check it out to see what kind of edgy shit I'd find, and boy was I not disappointed.
Feel free to check it out If you need a laugh.
- oh that was added by the previous maintainer. I should probably remove it tbh.

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