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DEMOS (Dialogovaya Edinaya Mobilnaya Operatsionnaya Sistema: Russian: Диалоговая Единая Мобильная Операционная Система, ДЕМОС, lit. 'Interactive Unified Portable Operating System') is a Unix-like operating system developed in the Soviet Union. It is derived from Berkeley Software Distribution (BSD) Unix.

It's development was initiated in the Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy in Moscow in 1982, and development continued in cooperation from other institutes, and commercialized by DEMOS Co-operative which employed most key contributors to DEMOS and to its earlier alternative, MNOS (a clone of Version 6 Unix). MNOS and DEMOS version 1.x were gradually merged from 1986 until 1990, leaving the joint OS, DEMOS version 2.x, with support for different Cyrillic script character encoding (charsets) (KOI-8 and U-code, used in DEMOS 1 and MNOS, respectively).

Initially it was developed for SM-4 (a PDP-11/40 clone) and SM-1600. Later it was ported to Elektronika-1082, BESM, ES EVM, clones of VAX-11 (SM-1700), and several other platforms, including PC/XT, Elektronika-85 (a clone of DEC Professional), and several Motorola 68020-based microcomputers.

The development of DEMOS effectively ceased in 1991, when the second project of the DEMOS team, RELCOM, took priority.

An archive of the DEMOS source code can found here: https://github.com/bpr97050/DEMOS There's some interesting comments and mailing list archives in that repository as well. :)


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  • CW: Transphobia, federal IDs, Trump

    I've seen some people suggest getting their passport updated to correct gender markers, since that's something that's relatively easy to do right now and is likely to become much more difficult or impossible with the new Trump administration. However, that gender marker change is something that could easily be reverted by executive fiat, and could be used as a pretense to revoke said passport. On the other hand, trying to make those changes unilaterally would be challenged in the courts, and it could definitely be delayed/stayed.

    So the question is, are the benefits of getting these gender markers changed worth any of the risks. As a note, I plan to move to a state that would allow self ID for state-level identification markers, and my birth certificate is from a deep red state so I won't be able to get that amended anytime soon.

    • same CWs, add anxiety/stress

      It's actually looking like Trump might try to revert things like passports https://hexbear.net/post/3861287?scrollToComments=false (depressing read, but should be read). I've already started looking into DIY, because even though I'm in a "blue" state, getting HRT from healthcare providers looks like it's going to be much more difficult, if even possible. I wonder how long passports made before this executive order might last, but I worry that they might just invalidate them all.

      On courts, I worry that the Supreme Court is all-too-ready to shoot down any challenges, and with a likely Republican supermajority (not to mention dems that would be in favor of this). I am kind of stressing about what could happen as a result of this.

    • As an update, I decided to go for it. I actually don't have a valid passport, my last one was as a child, so I will need to go in person, which I am okay with.

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      I don't know if they even keep the info of who changed their gender marker tbh, they might just update it the database and away they go. Even before I cracked my egg, I had "mistakes" with my gender marker on some government file and hospital stuff (perhaps not mistakes but prophetic warnings to trans my gender). I imagine this happens with cis people occasionally, and if they cancel any of their passports over it people would be PISSED. Although they might decide it's like an Imane Khalif situation and retroactively decide they must be trans.

      I'm sure they could try to say you must put your birth sex on your passport, but if you get that amended... I don't think they have any way of undoing your preferred gender marker. In the future, we should aim to degender a lot of these IDs. It doesn't matter and we don't need them on our drivers license, it's no one's business on our birth certificates (I can see it on a notice of birth but then they should ignore it on gov ID). It's nice when I look at some ID and see F, for sure, but it'd be better if it didn't say anything at all. Don't need the government certifying my gender.

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