.ml is hell
.ml is hell
Every two days a new thread with hundreds of comments of a bunch of liberals doing the same fucking talking points about the election. It doesn't even fucking matter but so many people are just so enthusiastic to be hand-wringing or smug or whatever their preferred flavor of insufferable is, presumably mostly because they've been acculturated by liberal media to the idea that Trump is the apocalypse despite the fact that we already saw how Trump bumbles his way through a term!
It's just so bad, you can't talk about it anywhere there without someone leaping down your throat to say the same shit you've heard before.
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Bumbles his way through a term
Dude appointed like 4 Supreme Court justices which has drastically changed the direction of the country. Also supported (encouraged?) throwing over our democratically elected government because he lost to a guy who has less mental capacity than the other presidential candidate that says he has worms in his brain.
really awesome system you got there where you spin a roulette wheel to determine the make-up of the 9 god kings who decree all laws and are appointed for life, and it's entirely random who gets appointed based on when they die
definitely not an inherent issue with your entire system, just a single bad election to that fascist Drumpf ruined everything
our democratically elected government
The US is a democracy in the same way as when only land-owning, white men could vote, or as Israel is now.
I'm sure the people who it benefits love to call it "democracy".
If we are splitting hairs than it’s a representative democracy, sorry I had to spell it out for you, but you should have learned this in 3rd grade
You should have learned by now that representative democracy is not a meaningful practice, given its track record of almost no successes.
Also, you literally do coups - including against democratically elected governments - all the time, and don't have an issue with that.
The implication behind "democracy" is an equal vote democracy, which the US is objectively not. Which was the whole point of my comment. You can call us a democracy in the same way a slave state is a democracy if you're white. Our representative elections are not democratic, and individual wealthy people have an outsized vote over millions of people.
You didn't understand what I was saying, are too much of a moron to understand that, and think that it's me who isn't smart enough.
I would ask you, "when was the last time you voted for a policy and got it?" which would be "never" for me, but I don't know your politics, so I'll just point out that 70% of Americans want single-payer healthcare but most politicians side with the insurance companies for some mysterious reason, and there's nothing we can do about it as an electorate because our only option is to vote "lesser evil" every few years or boycott the elections and watch other people vote lesser evil.
If you've ever heard of ALEC, then you should already know exactly who this "representative" "democracy" functionally represents.
Marx grasped this essence of capitalist democracy splendidly when, in analyzing the experience of the Commune, he said that the oppressed are allowed once every few years to decide which particular representatives of the oppressing class shall represent and repress them in parliament!
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Democracy for an insignificant minority, democracy for the rich — that is the democracy of capitalist society.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1917/staterev/ch05.htm
you're embarrassing yourself
lol, your facts are from marxists.org? Should I also take advice from trumps website? Pointing to an obviously biased website is crazy
Everyone is biased, dipshit. Including you and the sources you get your news from. Not understanding something as fundamental as this makes your smugness even more embarrassing than it already is. Keep it up.
Tagline material.
Marxists.org is a collection of works on political theory. They aren't really biased beyond wanting to preserve the works and provide easy access to them.
The link is to something written by Lenin in 1917, referencing something Marx wrote earlier. I suppose you could say that Lenin and Marx were biased in the sense that they had strong views but that isn't a valid reason to dismiss everything they ever said, and that ignorant perspective is just going to get you laughed at here.
Tbh some of the translations could use work, but they are republishing work they didnt translate themselves
What's a site that's not biased according to you
Media bias fact check
Yeah I'm certain David Van Zandts personal vibes-based website is completely unbiased.
Edit: sorry comrade, didn't realise you weren't the same doofus as the other guy
Ah yes, the notoriously not-biased fact checkers. /s
EDIT: HAHAHAHA. They have this rating for some countries, and you want to claim that they are not biased? HAHAHAHA
MBFC’s Country Freedom Rank: TOTAL OPPRESSION
EDIT 2: HAHAHA. Their rating for Pissrael is 'MODERATE FREEDOM'.
You were joking when you said that they aren't biased, weren't you?
You were joking when you said that they aren’t biased, weren’t you?
Yes
You were joking when you said that they aren't biased, weren't you?
99% sure they were, this is their top post.
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It's a joke, it's not OP replying
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They're quoting Marx which is being hosted on marxists.org, you brick.
Also everyone is biased, objective reporting is literally impossible. Learn how to do source critique and text analysis instead of just gargling the same thought-killing propaganda you've been regurgitating your whole life
marxists.org is an archive of hundreds of thousands of texts by influential sociologists, historians, political economists and political theorists. It's not our "facts" it's an argument in the form of a written text. Perhaps you should sit down and take the time to read sometimes and maybe learn something.
Are the marxists bad
Everybody is biased. Denying one's own biases just means that you do not understand them.
lol, lmao
Want to come over, I'll read it to you directly from a book?
space cadet
noun
- One who shows difficulty in grasping or responding appropriately to serious or necessary concerns; a spacy person.
good bit tbh, sorry anyone wasted their time responding to you
Tell me you're an "enlightened centrist" without telling me you're an enlightened centrist...
good bit. I'm assuming this is a bit because I don't th
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"Changed the direction of the country"
Gonna need a fat source on that one because for everyone who actually cracks a history book, or fuck it, skims Wikipedia even... it's pretty clear that the US has always been a reactionary fascistic hellscape with only small moments of a glint of possible redemption immediately snuffed out as it lurches back into reactionary sentiments.
Examples being post-Civil War reconstruction being stalled out, the constitution not being scrapped in whole in favor of a new one, etc. Or post-FDR when the more left-leaning liberal policies were working quite well, Truman gets in and immediately wants to go genocide Korea to prove he isn't a dirty commie... or whatever bullshit.
So, again, gonna need some sort of actually coherent explanation for how Trump is the aberration as opposed to Justice Warren and Justice Thurgood Marshall being the aberrations. The oddballs, historically, who actually managed to implement the will of the people (to a small, limited degree of course) via SCOTUS... only to spark like 70 years of asshurt from reactionaries who came up with a plan of action and executed it. Trump was just the final domino in that specific plan. It was always going to succeed eventually regardless of which republican held office because the liberals never bothered to actually substantially pushback on the reactionaries. Almost like they either agree or don't actually care and just cynically pretend to care.
Gonna need a fat source for those claims
You need a 'fat source' for stuff like the invasions of Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Vietnam, Iraq, etc., the coups in Brazil, Chile, Ukraine, etc., settler-colonialism in the Americas, in Palestine, slavery and segregation in the US itself, neocolonialism happening/being a thing and not just being a figment of everybody's imagination?
I mean, if you want me to, I can provide sources for those things happening, but I think that it's pretty obvious that those things did/do happen/are happening.
This smug lib is a contrarian troll.
Here's a source for you: Wikipedia.com
Thank you for demonstrating my point. Please pick another thread to go cry about the Capitol riot in, it's not like there's a lack of liberal and more-highly-federated (and thereby more liberal) instances to do that in.
You brought it up?
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Woosh
i want you to know that you are a stupid asshole
Death to America
Democratically elected
Trump lost the popular vote, but still got in. Bush with the Florida thing.
Gerrymandering.
The immense amount of ratfucking you've seen during primaries.
The incredibly low voter participation.
The fact that the government does not care what you think.
And we're not even getting into the suppression that is done.This is a fact, US elections are decided when they do the redistricting