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No, Trump Did Not Endorse a Military Assault on People 'Simply Because They Oppose His Candidacy'

reason.com No, Trump did not endorse a military assault on people 'simply because they oppose his candidacy'

"Never before has a presidential nominee—let alone a former president—openly suggested turning the military on American citizens simply because they

The former president's authoritarian tendencies are alarming enough without inventing new outrages.

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Yes he did:
"We have some very bad people. We have some sick people, radical left lunatics... And it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard or really necessary by the military, because they can't let that happen," he said.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/could-trump-use-military-go-after-radical-left/story?id=114806253
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-suggests-hell-use-the-military-on-the-enemy-from-within-the-u-s-if-hes-reelected
- Dude looked at the Nixon admin's response to political opposition and said "yeah that's a good way to go!" 🤦‍♂️
- Agreed. Even from the reason article itself,
  it is clear that Trump, contrary to the gloss offered by the Times, was talking about rioting by "radical left lunatics," as opposed to peaceful protests
  Except that the quote that they give is this one,
  I think the bigger problem is the enemy from within—not even the people that have come in and destroyed our country, by the way, totally destroying our country. The towns, the villages, they're being inundated. But I don't think they're the problem in terms of Election Day.
  I think the bigger problem are the people from within. We have some very bad people. We have some sick people, radical left lunatics. And I think they're the—and it should be very easily handled by—if necessary, by [the] National Guard or, if really necessary, by the military, because they can't let that happen.
  Which has no mentioning of rioting or violence. The implication is clear - he'd be willing to sic the military on nonviolent dissidents.

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  It's heartening to get positive feedback like this, I appreciate it. I've been calling this guy out for a while and it disgusts me how often people defend them.

Poster is straight up defending Trump now. Mask off, I guess. No more pretending to post Jill Stein because he “found it interesting.”
- Yeah, it's a bit disappointing and super lame. Used to be just a shit ton of random news, then a bit right leaning, now fully pro-Trump posts only.
  Oh well, Boost to the rescue again with user tags. "Trump Schill"? "Would happily gag on Trump's mushroom"? I wonder what the character limit is
  
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  Let me know which one you decide, thanks!
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"We need to use the military on the enemy within if necessary"
"Adam Schiff and Nancy Pelosi are examples of enemies from within"
Seems pretty clear.
He wants to use the military against "left leaning lunatics". Well if he refers to everyone on the left as a lunatic, then that's everyone who disagrees with him. He sometimes defines the "lunatics" as the communist and Marxist in the party. But we already had McCarthyism once, what about second McCarthyism? Is anyone who votes left just a secret communist in disguise?
- Straight out of the fascist playbook; invent a boogyman that most reasonable people would dislike, promote violence and discrimination against this boogyman, then color all your opponents as boogymen.

Posting more pro Trump garbage. Tell us again how you didn't vote for Trump.
- You are correct, I didn't vote for Trump. Thank you! :)

I've usually been pretty open minded about your posts, giving the benefit of the doubt that it's all just for perspective and not your own political astroturfing, but this one is straight up, grade-A bullshit. He literally did say that. There are video clips of him saying it because he fucking said it during a public event that was being filmed.
For fuck's sake.
- I didn't write the article. So be sure to let the news org know your concerns, and send links of your proof! Thank you!
  
  So you just post shit without even checking the verasity of what you post? Noted.
  
  lol lol lol I didn’t yell fire in the theater I just repeated what someone else said

I’m so tired of the media sanewashing this violent, demented lunatic.

Bartiromo asked Trump whether he was "expecting chaos on Election Day" if "you win." "Trump suggests he'll use the military on 'the enemy from within' the U.S. if he's reelected," said the PBS headline over an Associated Press story. That one does not even superficially make sense, since Trump would not yet be president in Bartiromo's scenario.
So this guy says "I'm going to order the military to attack American citizens if I'm reelected" and Reason is out here saying that headlines expressing concern about using the military for political revenge are fake news because this interviewer asked what he'd do on Election Day? He literally said that he would send the military after "the enemy within" in response to her question. Reason out here lying about the context of his answer because the senile old fascist can't wait until inauguration to get his hands on the military. Probably would be good for the MBFC to re-evaluate Reason's factuality rating.

The fake crises he invents all sound like cheesy horror movies:
"convicted illegal alien murderers on the loose"
"cannibal zombie vampires from outer space"
- "Millions and millions are pouring into our country each day!"
  It's true. I now have 8 Mexicans living underneath my floorboards, since millions have been pouring in every day since he started saying this there's not much place else for them to go. According to my calculations and this graph that I drew on with a sharpie, if this trend continues and Harris wins in November, by 2028 there will be more Guatemalans in Arizona than molecules of water in the ocean. I rest my case.

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- Reason is funded by the Koch brothers. It’s a rightwing shit-rag with zero credibility. This bot is broken.

But the DoD under Biden did revise 5240.01 on September 27 2024 which would allow police and the National Guard to request US military assistance on US soil against protest, up to lethal force.
So if Trump were to act on the claims liberals make, Biden and Co have set the groundwork up to enable him to do it. The same way they built cages for kids that trump used.
- I comment on all the posts I deem necessary to comment on.
  Like kids in cages, if Trump gets elected and does what he says, liberals will blame him and not the people that set the groundwork which allowed him to do it.

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