Keith Ellison becomes latest Democrat to attack Dr. Jill Stein and the Green Party

Good. Fuck Russian asset Jill stein

I'm not voting for her, so your distaste for her doesn't matter to me at all. You are def free to your opinion.
- I’m not voting for her
  
  This you?

The real source is a German news site called "Tag24 News." Why did you link to an MSN reprint of it?

In any event, Jill Stein is almost certainly a Russian asset, and the American version of the Green Party bears little resemblance to the European Greens, both in policy positions and credibility. Ellison has every right to express his opinions about them.

The real source is a German news site called “Tag24 News.” Why did you link to an MSN reprint of it?

Because the MSN link is what comes up in my newsfeed and is the version I read. So I posted. In any event, Tag24News is a legit news site as well

In any event, Jill Stein is almost certainly a Russian asset,

You're welcome to your opinion, but I don't think she is.
- You’re welcome to your opinion, but I don’t think she is.
  
  Not really opinion at this point...
  
  Putin’s Shill Stein wants Nato disbanded, the US to give up their SC veto, and revoke weapons to help Ukraine defend itself while simultaneously forcing ‘peace’ (subjugation) negotiations with russia.
  
  For those that don’t understand how the Electoral College + FPTP voting works, voting for her means helping donald become president due to the spoiler effect.
  
  2015 Stein breaking bread with Putin, his senior staff, and Mike Flynn (later Trump's national security advisor
  
  More context:
  
  Emir Kusturica is a propagandist filmmaker quoted as saying "if I was Russian I would vote for him". He also supports Russian annexation of Crimea.
  
  Willy Wimmer was a Right-wing German politician who in his retirement has effectively become a far-right conspiracy theorist that regularly posts to the Epoch Times.
- They've hired Trump lawyer Jay Sekulow to try to force their way onto the ballot in Nevada, a swing state. They're so obviously compromised.
- but I don’t think she is.
  
  Translation: I'm covering for her as a part time job

Someone should explain to those Muslims in Wisconsin that Stein literally cannot win their state. She has no electors. State law requires that a candidates electors be nominated by state office holders. The greens have no state office holders so they cannot nominate any electors. Even if Stein were to somehow win the state, she can't get the electoral votes for Wisconsin. All she can do is again steal enough votes from Harris to give the election to Trump.

It's not about that. It's making the statement: condem Israel and promise an arms embargo or we'll spoil the election.

That's all Kamala has to do and the Jill problem will be over.
- That may be the statement they want to make, but the statement they are making is: Condemn Israel or we will let the fascists install a virulently anti-Muslim dictator who will actively help Israel wipe out Palestine.
Yeah those muslims just need to rollover and accept democrats or republicans murdering them
- A Democrat or a Republican is going to win either way. Only an insane person or an idiot would vote for someone with no chance of winning rather than for the candidate who will do the least harm.
- Calling voters murderers is an outstanding electoral strategy
Someone should explain to those Muslims in Wisconsin

I think you’re underestimating them. These workers and voters are educated, smart, and fully aware of the stakes—they don’t need anyone to explain anything.

To imply they can't think for themselves is an insult to their intelligence. They’re not pawns of the duopoly; they know exactly what they’re doing by rejecting the system that’s failed them time and time again. And I support them and their decisions.
- In a way, AOC was right.
  
  Wanted to add that the there's an exception to this. The actual law states that, among other categories,
  
  Candidates for the senate and assembly nominated by each political party at the primary,
  
  Also, from https://wisconsinexaminer.com/2024/08/26/wisconsin-supreme-court-declines-to-hear-lawsuit-against-green-party-ballot-access/
  
  Legislative candidates can also be electors.
  
  So if the Green Party had fielded candidates for these lower offices, then those candidates could also serve as the electors and they wouldn't have this problem. Which hits the point that AOC made well, that the Green Party needs to be building at the grassroots and fielding candidates in more lower offices.
  
  If we check the law itself again, there's also this bit,
  
  8.185 Write-in candidates for president and vice president. ... (2) Any candidates for the office of president and vice president of the United States as write-in candidates shall file a list of presidential electors ... Compliance with this subsection may be waived by the commission ... In such event, the write-in candidate shall have until 4:30 p.m. on the Friday following the general election to comply with the filing requirements of this subsection.
  
  It's interesting to see that the requirements are more lax for write-in candidates - not needing to decide on the electors until after the election has been held.
  
  And if a write-in or independent or third party did win the election, I think it's a possibility that retiring state senators from other parties might well agree to serve as electors for that candidate (as the better alternative to seeing the state's electoral votes lost).
  
  So if Jill Stein were a write-in candidate, then it's possible to see her getting an actual slate of electors in Wisconsin if she did win the election in that state.
  
  That being the case, perhaps there's some legal rabbit that the Green Party is waiting to pull out of their hat to solve this when the time is right - say to argue and convince the WEC and the courts that the more lax write-in deadline should apply to Stein and the Green Party upon their victory.
- They are not rejecting the system. To do that they would need to leave and go somewhere else. What they, and you, are doing is refusing to participate in the system as it currently functions and by doing so allowing the system to put a fascist in charge, a fascist that will happily wipe them out.