This shit is incredible. He used to tone it down when he wasn't speaking directly to his base, but he came out of the gate with post birth executions. Now we're onto Haitians eating cats and dogs, wtf?
I think that's actually beneficial. It allows him to lie again, the moderators to fact check, and then Kamala to respond again. He looks dumb and flustered right now.
I honestly had to turn the thing off because I’m so sick of hearing this guy’s blatant bullshit. He doubled down on abortion rights advocates wanting to kill babies in the delivery room. What a fucking lying piece of shit.
I've mostly been avoiding his bullshit, at least directly, since he left office. I had to tune in here because I think this is crucial given how this campaign has played out. I truly believe if he loses here, he won't make it to another run.
Yeah, I think I have 30m to 1h left. I started late to watch at 2x speed but I honestly think that made it more stressful. Hearing Trump's bullshit at twice the frequency is really annoying. I can imagine how Harris felt. She's handled it well from what I've seen, but does that move the needle? Is anyone who was considering Trump or abstaining really going to be bothered by the total bullshit? I hope so, but we'll have to wait and see.
I only watched the beginning, kind of hopeless that people might think he did well. I didn’t even know kept to watch: just lie after lie, told with complete confidence, and without following any theme or logic.
At least when he repeated the thing about Haitians eating your pets: surely no one but hard core racists can agree with that, right?
I found it to be slightly better of a debate, if not for Harris' reactions (but mostly because most debates are terrible). Watching Trump get baited all night was just, chefs kiss.
Looking at commentary afterwards though, man undecided voters have gotta be the least informed people on earth. Or the craziest. Or just unreasonably stupid.
undecided voters have gotta be the least informed people on earth. Or the craziest. Or just unreasonably stupid.
I'm gonna go with "all of the above".
If you just got done watching THAT spectacle and still aren't sure that the Mango Mussolini should be kept away from any position of power, you're hopeless and nobody should give you the time of day.
What's up with the misogyny, ABC? They keep letting Weird 34 have more and more time, talking over his limit, talking over the moderators, and talking over Harris. Sleepy DonOLD doesn't respect women and what women gave to say, especially if they disagree with him to any degree.
One that threw me for a loop was Trump claimed Harris would perform transgender surgeries on illegal immigrants in prison, and according to this 2019 ACLU Survey response that was partially true:
"14. As President will you use your executive authority to ensure that transgender and non-
binary people who rely on the state for medical care — including those in prison and
immigration detention — will have access to comprehensive treatment associated with gender
transition, including all necessary surgical care? If yes, how will you do so?
Yes X No ⬜
Explanation (no more than 500 words): It is important that transgender individuals who rely
on the state for care receive the treatment they need, which includes access to treatment
associated with gender transition. That’s why, as Attorney General, I pushed the California
Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation to provide gender transition surgery to state
inmates. I support policies ensuring that federal prisoners and detainees are able to obtain
medically necessary care for gender transition, including surgical care, while incarcerated or
detained. Transition treatment is a medical necessity, and I will direct all federal agencies
responsible for providing essential medical care to deliver transition treatment."
Transgender people in the justice system can be impacted by negative mental health by their body type or perceived societal judgement.
If medical health professionals believe it would benefit their mental health to a place that could give them the positive self image enough to properly exist within our society? Maybe worth it.
Justice system should be about reform not punishment
That’s cool, I didn’t know that. I’m not totally on board with that type of care, but I’m neither a medical professional nor someone who would be involved. If the best medical opinion is that it’s necessary …. When we take away someone’s rights and send them to prison, that makes us responsible for their human rights, including medical treatment