this is all

This is the propaganda I can get behind.

And with trolleybuses powered on a renewable grid, it's zero gallons!

VPN uses 0 gallons.

68 men plus the driver makes 69, amirite?

Ah, you should see buses in my city. Dirty, thirty years old, overpopulated graves on wheels with no air conditioners.

Never again.

Recently visited York (UK) and they have a fantastic bus system - and they're electric.

But everybody loves cars! Just look at how many cars people buy all the time!

/s

I could take 68 men. That's a normal Saturday night for me.

But that'll take away people's freedom to pay a subscription for heated seats 😔

Despite having the tube and double-decker busses, London is the most traffic congested city in the world.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-10/these-are-the-world-s-most-congested-cities

Gallons? Shouldn't it be liters?

Now consider an electric bus

but this isn't new technology where you can write a 100 bullshit news article about and prais it as the next big thing because it actually works and is efficient

It makes a good point but only if your country actually has public transport.

If you live somewhere with zero public transport, the car is your only option.

The correct answer actually should -and could- be 0 gallons if they simply cycle to work. Granted, that requires them to have the right infrastructure available, but if (once) that existed, the vast majority of the work force could cycle to work happily. Most people don't live 20 miles or more from where they work

We need to get one more man to work

This was a lot more appealing before COVID.

Won't work in the US. We all hate each other.

So the very first result on Google for "double decker fuel efficiency" give the result "per gallon, while a 'double-decker' bus with a Diesel engine will run 11 miles per gallon".

44 / 5 days is approx 9 miles poet day. 4.5 miles to and 4.5 miles back.

I didn't want to believe this but I guess city dwellers where double deckers operate would probably have short commutes like this on average

And six times as long as best.

That's great when all those people live in the same block and go to work at the same company and have the same hours.

But Frank lives 10 miles away and works on the other side of town. And Tim lives 3 towns over and works the night shift. Bill lives in the country and works 40 miles away. Eddy lost a leg in the war and while he is only 1/2 mile from the bus station, can't walk that far with his disability.

When it is convenient, it is convenient, but there's a reason why when given the choice, most normal people will drive their car instead no matter what the nonsense in this subs likes to pretend is real.

Nobody is arguing it isn't efficient. It's a pain in the ass and I need to deal with randoms in public.

What do I do when there's no bus route anywhere near my work? I cycle when it's weather appropriate but I ain't cycling to work in 20°C heatwave.

This assumes all of them live right next to each other though

You need about 7 cars displaced per bus at all times in order for it to be more efficient in gas.

I would rather have a world full of velomobiles than buses.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_efficiency_in_transport#US_Passenger_transportation

Yeah, but buses generally suck. Give me actual rail, thanks.

The DC Metro was amazing.

People people. We need to solve the problem of cars by building bigger cars!

but how many gallons does it take without hating to your life?

see answer 1

We'll here in my city it not cuts congestion it MAKES congestion

Nice. I have to travel like 17 miles to the nearest bus station. This fixes everything! /s

Better off with my own vehicle when it's only like 8 miles to work. I'd be literally wasting 9 miles to the bus station and 9 miles back in my own vehicle to even get back and forth to the bus station.

Edit: Seriously, have any of you tried traveling 17 miles to the west, only to catch a bus going 25 miles to the east, passing your own town to get to work? Then going 25 miles back, only to have to drive your own vehicle back home, because the bus don't stop there?

Better off just taking my own vehicle to work.

That's fine when back in the day they didn't want to stab you for looking their way for 0.3 ms

And never mind the rampant spread of bedbugs and disease, being exposed to violence and sexual assault, risking being arrested simply for angering the bus driver, being made late to work or even missing it entirely because of bus breakdowns, route changes or cancellations, or any number of problems that are more easily rectified with an electric car or a bike