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  • "The Libertarian Party’s platform calls for significantly reducing the scope of the federal government by getting rid of regulations and cutting spending."

    I'm open... which regulations? Which spending?

    How do Libertarians do again?

    2020:
    Joe Biden 81,283,501 - 51.31% 306 EC votes.
    Donald Trump 74,223,975 - 46.85% 232 EC votes.
    Jo Jorgensen - Libertarian - 1,865,535 - 1.18% 0 Howie Hawkins - Green - 407,068 - 0.26% 0

    2016:
    Donald Trump 62,984,828 - 46.09% - 304 EC votes.
    Hillary Clinton 65,853,514 - 48.18% - 227 EC votes
    Gary Johnson - Libertarian - 4,489,341 - 3.28% - 0
    Jill Stein - Green - 1,457,218 - 1.07% - 0

    2012:
    Barack Obama - 65,915,795 - 51.06% - 332
    Mitt Romney - 60,933,504 - 47.20% - 206
    Gary Johnson - Libertarian - 1,275,971 - 0.99% - 0
    Jill Stein - Green - 469,627 - 0.36% - 0

    2008:
    Barack Obama - 69,498,516 - 52.93% - 365
    John McCain - 59,948,323 - 45.65% - 173
    Ralph Nader - Independent - 739,034 - 0.56% - 0
    Bob Barr - Libertarian - 523,715 - 0.40% - 0
    Chuck Baldwin - Constitution - 199,750 - 0.15% - 0
    Cynthia McKinney - Green - 161,797 - 0.12% - 0

    2004:
    George W. Bush - 62,040,610 - 50.73% - 286
    John Kerry - 59,028,444 - 48.27% - 251
    John Edwards - 5 - 0.00% - 1
    Ralph Nader - Independent - 465,650 - 0.38% - 0
    Michael Badnarik - Libertarian - 397,265 - 0.32% - 0
    Michael Peroutka - Constitution - 143,630 - 0.12% - 0
    David Cobb - Green - 119,859 - 0.10% - 0

    2000:
    George W. Bush - 50,456,002 - 47.86% - 271
    Al Gore - 50,999,897 - 48.38% - 266
    Ralph Nader - Green - 2,882,955 - 2.74% -
    0
    Pat Buchanan - Reform - 448,895 - 0.43% - 0
    Harry Browne - Libertarian - 384,431 - 0.36% - 0

    Edit Yes, you read that right. In 2004, one faithless elector cast an electoral college ballot for John Edwards. It's commonly believed this was an error, but it counted anyway. Meaning a mistaken EC vote has counted more than all Libertarian and Green candidates combined in the past 1/4 century.

  • Hillary didn't and it cost her the election. Any reasonable, well-informed person should have voted against Trump, and she acted as if that applied to most voters.

    If voters were well informed, the GOP wouldn't exist. The two parties would be progressives and liberals. Treating voters as a rational group is, in itself, irrational.

    • This Lemmy community explores and respects diverse viewpoints. I wouldn't advocate that the GOP shouldn't exist. Just as I wouldn't advocate that the DNC shouldn't exist.

      And I believe 3rd parties are good for a healthy society.

      • The counterpoint to progressive action is moderation. The GOP do not represent useful ideas to a happy populous. They rely on lies and a skewed perception of reality. I don't respect a party whose core values are harming others, and I live in a red state so I live through that every day.

        I accept and respect various diverse viewpoints on how to best serve the country, including actual libertarian values. I would be more than happy if Joe Manchin was a typical opposing argument to progressive ideals.

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