Samsung delivers 600-mile solid-state EV battery as it teases 9-minute charging and 20-year lifespan tech
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The original was posted on /r/technology by /u/wish-u-well on 2024-07-27 02:37:53+00:00.
I bet they'll conveniently forget to make them have 20 year lifespans when they start actually selling them. Because otherwise that falls into "too good to be true" territory and this is Samsung, a large tech corporation.
There are probably more asterisks than starts inn that statement.
Is 20 years the average? The maximum under ideal circumstances? What would be the effective capacity of the battery at 19 years? What is the maintenance required?
How about phones? Surely Samsung would put their own new battery tech in their own phones right?
Where would you drive in your phone, bro? Don't be silly.
Based on the article they are more expensive than li-ion batteries (for now), so probably not yet. And the article doesn't mention anything about this, but I imagine there would be scaling issues.
I don't think solid state batteries provide as much benefit in smaller devices.
Size constrains probably.
SSB can be a quite a lot denser compared to existing ones. Up to 2.5x if I recall correctly. Also less flammable. Edit: consider -> compared
That sounds like an excessively large battery.
According to Samsung SDI's VP, automakers are interested in its solid-state battery packs because they are smaller, lighter, and much safer than what's in current electric cars. Apparently, they are also rather expensive to produce, since it warns that they will first go into the "super premium" EV segment of luxury electric cars that can cover more than 600 miles on a charge.
Apparently not, though this is all marketing speak
How bloody long were they before they made this smaller one?
Wow! A battery that can magically transport itself 600 miles! What a world we live in!
Or, you know, it's a no sense claim with made up numbers.
I have been seeing multiple battery tech claims per week, ever week, for the past 30 years and well over 99% of the claims are bull. Dumb claims like this battery goes 600 miles" tells you all you need to know.
Show me the money, then we'll talk
We are almost there. Doesn't the average internal combustion engine car go something like 600 to 1000 miles on a tank of fuel? If so just a little bit more and the "range anxiety" argument will no longer be valid.
Just a matter of faster charging, takes me maybe 5-10 minutes to fill up and pay, would take a lot longer for an EV. Certainly not an issue if every accommodation had charging points, as I'd then be unlikely to need a full charge during the day.
And yes, for regular day to day driving I would just charge at home, as I'm fortunate to have a garage. Not the case for many folks, sadly.
Definitely great news, and it's looking good that my next car will be an EV.
One car I had I could just about reach 600 miles if driving carefully on the highway. That was a diesel with a large tank. No other car I've had did better. My first car has a 300 mile range.
I might tap the center of that if I was doing near 100% highway, hypermiling and ran out the tank. But typically 300-500 in either of mine and I drive about 20 miles a day maximum.
It doesn't matter. Cars are still an unsustainable and inequitable grift destroying the planet. Just ban cars and make a million light EVs instead.
Ban cars with most of the world lacking proper EV infrastructure...
This idiotic statements is how you bread opposition to the cause among working people in US who are required a car to exist
Vehicles will always have specific use cases, it's just that most of North America's infrastructure is designed to accommodate vehicles with everything else being designed around that, put in as an afterthought or just not thought of in the first place (like cycling infrastructure). So people are using these machines for things that are outside their use case, as it has been for almost a century.
As things are right now, people would probably die if cars were outright banned. It's kind of funny how important personal vehicles have become and as such kind of scary how necessary they are (it's a bit of a paradox, isn't it?). To ban cars there first needs to be a good replacement option like well connected rail lines or cycling only roads (or at least protected bicycle lanes). These take time, money, resources and, most of all, political will to create. For most of the developed world money and resources aren't exactly an issue, the issue is politics that lock up those resources for vehicles.
I.e., funding for my cities major bicycle route that serves 1000+ people everyday is still only funded by my regions parks and recreation board which doesn't get enough money to maintain it properly. Even though it's really great, I can't use it after dark because there aren't any lights until I get to a shared route and there are a few bridges that are so uneven I have to walk across.
North America has to undo multiple decades of relentless car-centred development and the prevailing political climate means that will happen piecemeal at a municipal level, street by street, year by year. I personally don't want to wait for that though, so I'm learning Dutch.
I wouldn’t be able to get to work or buy groceries without a car. I also refuse to pay the cost to live in a walkable area, as everything is significantly more expensive. The change required to create a city that is both affordable and livable without a car is impossible at this point.
The problem with arguing that we can't just redesign cities for mixed transit is that is EXACTLY what we did for cars. 🤷♂️
Honey wake up, it's the weekly miracle battery tech!
But now it's actually being produced and put into products.
Sweet, I've been thinking about getting another EV. Which one is it in? I've got some time to go do test drives this weekend.