'What about Project 25?' John Fetterman turns the table on Fox News over Biden questions

Fetterman really is a mixed bag, and to be honest, I kind of like that. Life should be full of nuanced characters, I shouldn't have to decide between the same cookie cutter pieces of shit we have every election.
He's a piece of shit for supporting Israel so staunchly, don't get me wrong, but there's also plenty to like about him.
- When I worked for Allegheny county I ended up in a number of meetings with him, and have spent time speaking with him casually. What he did in Braddock was top notch governance. He pushed a very progressive agenda, and fought with everyone in the local government over it, but he mostly got his way, and stopped Braddock from being a food desert, increased the graduation rates, and a number of other major QOL metrics. He is very pro-labor, and pro-labor organization.
  He did support Israel, but he admitted that a lot of what was happening there left a bad taste in his mouth. I don't if it was the stroke, or he sold out to AIPAC, but he has turned hard line on that, apparently. I
- Even a stopped clock can be right twice a day.
  
  Its more like, even a decent clock goes off during daylight savings. Or something idk
  
  And a clock running backwards even 4 times a day
  
  Sometimes even a calculator is a clock.
- A taste of a multi party system

If anyone cares to read "Project 2025," it's a blueprint for creating a Judge Dredd universe, where the only people still living in it will be the Super Rich and the Super F*cking Poor.
That's a bad thing, by the way.
- For us folks who doesn't know Judge Dredd, got any summary, links or whatever?
  
  Universe where an armed police force are Judges, Juries, and Executioners.
  Following a nuclear war in 2070, the United States is reduced to MegaCity 1, covering the Eastern Seaboard, and MegaCity 2, covering the West Coast.
  In between is a nuclear wasteland called "The Cursed Earth".
  
  https://youtu.be/4NCtpXG6Az4?si=DzjmTdT87Jl3Jfrp
  Basically insane authority and complete corruption
  
  If you have the time, watch the movie "Dredd" (2012). It's Karl Urban being fucking awesome.
  
  2012 movie with Karl Urban is rad as hell.

Fetterman is a good person to go on Fox because he looks like a significant portion of their viewers
- He also shares a very large portion of the core beliefs of the old Republican party. In the 1960s he would've likely been considered center right.
  It's crazy that endorsing medicare and social support structures makes him a Democrat now.
  
  It's not crazy, it's intentional. Poor education combined with the lack of social structure creates a voting population ripe with anger over the shitty system and looking to blame someone instead of learn why it's like that.
  Conservative media is specially made to take uneducated and rage blind voters and churn out Republican candidates who pretty much only hold office because of manufactured spite towards democrats.
  
  Yeah he’s no democrat anymore. Since he hit his head he’s been sliding to the republicans

It's a shame he went full Zionist over donor money.
But Project 2025 is just basic conservatism. It is a wishlist that should shock no one for existing because it's pretty much verbatim what right wingers have demanded since pretty much ever.
- And it's not like it's trump specific.
  They've wanted to do this shit longer than even Biden has been alive.
  If trump dropped dead right now, the replacement would do the same stuff. Whatever republican running in 2036 will still want to finish up what hasn't been done yet.
  trump is a symptom, he might be the symptom that kills us, but just removing trump doesn't solve the underlying problem.
  
  It's the Heritage Foundation ffs.
- I'm inclined to think that his brain damage was the root cause (which led to accepting the ~~bribes~~ donations) - the timing was right, and only the brain-damaged would be Zionist at this point.
- Just because someone with access to intelligence doesn't believe that what's happening in Gaza amounts to genocide does not mean that they are some religious fanatic zionist.
  You realize virtually everyone in Washington agrees with Fetterman about what's happening in Gaza? You realize most Western democracies, their heads of state, along with their state and national security apparatuses, all agree that there is no genocide happening in Gaza?
  Maybe you simply have the calculus wrong? Have you considered that possibility?
  
  Because 40 thousand dead out of a population of millions equates to genocide. The number includes the savage Hamas terrorists you love so much as well. Maybe you just simply don't understand the calculus or what a genocide truly is. Thank Israel they don't show you.

Oh. Project 2025.... Okay. I was really confused.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_25
- Give Fetterman a break. He had jet lag and a cold. /s
  
  Everyone has bad days. It's been a while since Fetterman has done an interview. He's been busy performing the duties of his office.

god what a shitty website.
Archive link: https://archive.ph/5CLup

Wtf did I just read? This is what counts as journalism?
"How about Biden?"
"Oh yeah? How about project 25? Donald Trump likes it"
"Dominion lawsuit cost fox a lot of money"
"Wow."
...JFC what was that?
- About the same time Fettermen stopped saying he was a progressive and started getting visibly confused and angry when people called him a progressive, his ability to speak coherently and use critical thinking also disappeared...
  Total coincidence it was after a major stroke...
  But since he also became a shit ton more conservative, the moderate wing of the party is trying to pump him up as an alternative to The Squad.

The part where he mentions "project 25" is basically an attempt by Fetterman to get out of the confusing word salad he was in. Dude is doing a Biden impersonation during that section of the interview.

Are people actually still listening to 'I had a stroke now Im right wing" Fetterman?
- Do you think Russia still bothers with that, or do they just have an LLM subscription
  
  Hey friend, in case you haven't figured it out yet, the Democrat's whole "war on disinformation" thing that is really just a way to suppress views they don't like, including left/progressive views, is going to backfire in a major way. If you actually care about your political project you may want to find a way to defend it that doesn't involve calling everyone you disagree with a "bot".
  If you really believe that the person you are responding to is a bot, they are probably just a young person who subscribes to left wing meme pages that make these kind of jokes all the time. Dehumanizing your political enemies is a tendency of the worst political movements, not the most just. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if some of the hundreds of millions of campaign dollars being spent to reelect Biden were being spent on "social media consultants" who go in progressive liberal spaces such as Lemmy, calling people with left-critical views "bots"; not saying it is definitely happening, but there is a ton of precedent.
  
  Does BlueMAGA ever listen to itself? Russian hysteria all the time
- How is he right wing now?
  
  He's full blown Zionist, so yeah
- Fucking dude had a stroke, got brain damage, and became republican.
  
  That's who he always was, he knew he could get into office following the VBNMW bullshit train.

Yeah, why talk about the ancient brain mush guy who is going to lose to the fascist when we can talk about how fascist the fascist guy is?! Look at how fascist he is! I know we're going to lose to him but we'll yell about the fascism the whole time!
- Maybe if we talk more about how facist the facist is, ppl won't vote for the fucking facist...
  I rather have a hot glass of bird piss be president than a dictator
- ancient brain mush guy who is going to lose to the fascist
  "ancient guy" is only 2 years older than fascist guy. Also, I don't understand what's happening, the world seems to be having shared amnesia about the fact that Trump has been spouting senile and incoherent nonsense for years now?
  
  Hes probably to busy jerking off to all those homoerotic AI generated images of Trump being super muscular, shirtless and sweaty (and possibly embracing Putin in romantic fashion) to realize Trumps actually a senile old man who cant even control his bowels, much less his impulses.
- So, which would you honestly rather have? Someone who may or may not be in cognitive decline or someone who wants to become a fascist dictator?
  I'm not saying that Biden is in cognitive decline but I am saying that Trump is a wannabe fascist dictator.
  
  Pretty sure mr 34 felonies is further up the ladder of cognitive decline.
- When people talk about that Biden is going to lose and blame it on him, I really wonder if they understand what our system is and what the stakes are. We only lose if people decide not to vote for Biden. There are things that a good candidate can do to excite their voters and motivate people, but at the end of the day, anyone can see the options that lay before them and choose regardless of what the campaign does.
  You can wish that the campaign/candidate were better so that it made the job of motivating people easier. But if you are worried about the consequences of Trump winning this election, then you should be trying to motivate people to vote Biden. The article is to remind people that while Biden fared poorly at the debate, Trump was actually worse and is always worse. It seems to me that this is an honest point that underscores the need to vote Biden in this election, despite any of his shortcomings.
  We are driving down a road and a semi is coming straight at us at 100 mph. We can either veer off the road and damage or even total our car on whatever is there, or we can say “I shouldn’t have to veer off the road, there should be a shoulder”, or even “I didn’t even want to take this route in the first place but my wife insisted” as the truck hits us head on. There’s no good option, but there’s a clear survival option.
  
  To me it makes more sense to blame the weather than any person when it comes to voting patterns. But it would also make more sense to blame the Democratic party as a system than a single politician for a presidential loss.