CPUSA 32nd Convention Main Report: Forward Together!

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Then why did he say to support the guy who is funding and supporting the genocide? Why did he condemn the victims of the genocide?
- He did not condemn the victims of the genocide. We are anti-genocide, especially against the genocide of the Palestinians.
  And Joe Sims does not support Biden. He is trying to "block" Trump and prevent another Reagan, which he lived through.
  We've actually been gaining new applications since the start of the convention.
  I hope that you will at least consider the other side of the story here.
  
  I don't think Biden has full control over the Israelis in this case, though he could do much more than what he's doing, but I think that Trump would just double-down on the genocide and make it harder to organize in the United States with Project 2025.
  
  I assure you it's not a dodge.
  Reagan is dead and Trump would be worse than Biden, I feel. I already live in a red state. It is much worse than when it was blue. Glenn Youngkin is ever worse than Trump.
  Trump would be like Reagan in that he would herald another conservative "revolution" in his midst.
  
  I am not.
  
  I think it's up to the people to decide. I'll vote for Claudia de la Cruz, as I've said elsewhere.
  
  I know you're kind of busy with other things, but this all still bothers me quite a lot. Of course the people decide, they always do, but it is the job of the vanguard party to try to lead them to the best decision. Saying "Oops, vote as you will" is tailism, it is failing to lead, and what they are actually saying, "Vote to stop Trump getting elected" is overtly reactionary because anyone with two brain cells understands this to be a direction to vote for Biden. This unconditional support of the Democratic Party is in service of the maintenance of neoliberalism, no matter how nice you think the guy's speeches are
  Edit: Just to avoid spamming you:
  Trump will do the genocide as well and probably double-down
  You and every liberal says this, but how do you justify it? How can you say Trump will do more when Biden already sends tens of billions of "lethal aid" to Israel? You're just assuming that if Biden sends X, Trump will send 2X, but I have never seen any substantiation for this claim even though liberals constantly make it.
  
  If you were anti genocide then why would you support the guy doing the genocide?
  Also you clearly didn't even read the linked article where the dude blames the Palestinians for what's going on right now.
  Also I am not going to try to block Trump at the cost of THE ENTIRE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE. Sure we shouldn't want Trump to be president but more than that I don't want to support am ongoing genocide.
  I understand pragmatism I really do but you absolutely need to check yourself when your pragmatism comes at the cost of AN ENTIRE ETHNIC GROUP
  
  We do not support the person doing the genocide. We are trying to block Trump.
  Also, I don't think he blamed the Palestinians.
  And voting for Biden is not supporting a genocide, though I won't vote for Biden.
  
  voting for Biden is not supporting a genocide
  fuck off
  
  I mean in the sense that many want to block Trump from enacting Project 2025.
  
  Trump will do the genocide as well and probably double-down. We are not supporting Biden.
  We have a gun pressed to our heads and we need to maintain relations with activist groups on the ground are Democratic-aligned or that tend to vote Democrat.
  
  It is not.
  
  I don't want to be cruel but isn't your mother in the hospital at this very moment, why are you talking about this....
  
  I wasn't.
  
  ...and how do you 'block Trump'? Quit dodging!
  
  By supporting Democrats at the local level and municipalities and voting for Biden, but that's up to the individual members and districts; at the end of the day, it's basically just a suggestion, and many I know won't even vote for Biden (many will, of course, but you get the point).
  
  So do you or don't you practice Democratic Centralism? Is that or isn't that the party strategy?
  
  Yes, it is.
  No, democratic centralism is not apart of party strategy; it's just how we function.
  
  Ok, this seems contradictory to me. Democratic centralism isn't your strategy, but it is how you function. Can you please elaborate? What actually are you saying here and how isn't it a contradiction to have something be both "how you function" and yet also "not a part of party strategy"?
  
  It’s weasel speak. These people are sycophants, you won’t get a coherent answer just soup that spins in circles
  
  Oh you're right of course. I've read the rest of the thread, but still, I couldn't resist trying to pin him down on something. I was mostly curious to see exactly what kind of weasel speak I'd get in response, you know?

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