Florida man caught on camera pinning down 11-year-old girl he thought was egging his home
Florida man caught on camera pinning down 11-year-old girl he thought was egging his home
With this behavior from that guy, maybe there's a reason his apartment is getting egged!
The safety of our children is non-negotiable
As long as the 2nd amendment stands, nobody has a right to safety in USA. The 2nd amendment simply doesn't allow such a right.
So yes the safety is non negotiable, because you can't negotiate safety when the default is that everybody is allowed to own and carry deadly weapons.
Oh, fuck off. The 2A is needed now more than it's been in decades.
The 2A is needed now more than it's been in decades.
The second amendment was never intended to be used by citizens against the government. That is a lie cooked up by pro-gun people purposely misinterpreting history.
The second amendment exists because Madison didn’t want a large standing federal army, fearing it would put too much power into the hands of the federal government. Instead he wanted the nation’s defense to be handled by state militias.
That’s why it specifically talks about militias.
He changed his tune after the war of 1812 showed him the value of a standing federal army.
The government had no intention of being overthrown by its citizens if they decided the government was tyrannical. They put down multiple armed rebellions in the early years of the nation.
Well according the the people alive when Madison created the 2nd amendment, you're incorrect and it was also in there to be a checksum against the federal government. But I'm sure you're interpretation is more correct than theirs, right?
I could very well be wrong. I’m not a constitutional scholar, only repeating what I’ve learned and read. Can you show me these contemporary sources?
Right, those were talking about the ability of the states to be a check on federal power. Because military power would be in the hands of state militias.
M9stly referring to this, for anyone else who stumbles across this thread: "the Second Amendment was envisioned by the framers of the Constitution, according to College of William and Mary law professor and future U.S. District Court judge St. George Tucker in 1803 in his great work Blackstone’s Commentaries: With Notes of Reference to the Constitution and Laws of the Federal Government of the United States and of the Commonwealth of Virginia, as the “true palladium of liberty.” In addition to checking federal power, the Second Amendment also provided state governments with what Luther Martin (1744/48–1826) described as the “last coup de grace” that would enable the states “to thwart and oppose the general government.”"
Yes. A check against Federal power because state militias would be the military might. A “palladium of liberty” for those who believed centralized power was dangerous to liberty.
Ask Shay’s Rebellion and the Whiskey Rebellion about whether the government would cede power when confronted by armed citizens (as opposed to state militias).
So says the other side too
I'd rather be in a civil war than Republicans having access to minorities that can't fight back.
2A is needed.
In a perfect world it wouldn't be needed, but this isn't a perfect world.
It's really weird to see people in the US from both the left and the right protect the 2nd amendment and see it as some sort of mechanism to protect against authoritarianism. In fact, weird is putting it lightly - it's actually kinda insane.
I'll spare you the whole debate format because I don't think there is any real arguing with the science and statistics behind the mass spread and use of guns in the US. I also don't think there is any stopping the gun culture in the current paradigm because the dogma behind it has been parrotted and regurgated so much that it's basically part of the nation's psyche.
Guns only matter as much as the ideas of the people carrying them. Most guns in the US are not used for self-defence or to protect against government overreach, are they? When it comes down to it those are not the real reasonS why most people buy and use guns, are they? They sure make it easy though, not just to buy and use but also to rationalize and justify violence and killings.
Fighting fire with fire creates an inferno. You're not going to put out the fire with more fire. You're just gonna make it worse and feel self-righteous while doing it, creating an insidious cycle of violence.
It's the 21st century. The name of the game is cognitive warfare and liberty-loving people are losing badly. Guns won't change that.