Classic .ml shittake on Ukraine

I had to reread it a few times myself, but I'm pretty sure that's what he's talkin about

Because everyone knows Russia is well known for their totally legit free and fair elections/s

Dude doesn't know about Euromaidan. I wish some of these children would go to russia.

One of the best decisions I've made

Wonder why that user account is above the rules of the instance and its communities. The modlog is full of examples which should apply to their behavior as well

Because they don't support communism. They just like one version of ogliarchy better than the other.

Don't worry, someone will be along shortly to recommend 2000 pages of communist literature that wouldn't even prove their point even if you read it all.

At least China goes through the motions of being Communist. They also somehow support 21st century Russia which is just openly an authoritarian oligarchy.

"Because they'll eventually take away their wealth or kill them" is an argument I've actually seen on .ml. I'm not against the sentiment of getting rid of the capitalists but cmon, when someone says China isn't socialist and points at a clearly capitalist behavior you can't be "it's still socialist because the capitalist thing will be fixed in the future". Then every country might as well be socialist, we'll just fix capitalism at some later date.

The "Party" sits above the "Money" in their power structure, unlike most of the Capitalist countries nowadays were (after 4 decades of Neoliberalism) Money is a power above that of the State (and remember, the State is what the voters supposedly control in Democracy, so that means that Money is a higher power than Democracy, which is why many have pointed out that countries like the US are Oligarchies not Democracies).

And, for reference, in Fascism too (or, in fact, all other Autocratic systems) the State sits above Money, so I'm hardly saying that by itself that is enough to make that system good

The real hypocrisy of tankies, IMHO, is that the "Communist" nations they support in a tribalist way still have elites, they're just not chosen via Money but instead via ability of climbing up the Party ranks (so Cronyism and Sociopathy) whilst genuine Leftwing thinking is about Equality, the very opposite of there being people who get privileged treatment for any reason other than need (that reason being money as in Capitalist system or something else is quite irrelevant in Leftwing thinking)

If you just see them as tribalists wedded to an ideology shaped by a specific kind of elites who use a specific kind of slogans around Equality to support the continuation of the structure that maintains their elite privileges, (which is parallel to what's done in Capitalism which similarly has the whole bullshit about how wealth is the product of merit to justify discrimination based on wealth) you can understand why tankies would think what they do about China.

They're still mindless simpleton tribalists, but it's interesting to understand how using as foundation for ones own judgement an ideology controlled by somebody else without doing at the very least some analysing of it just as easily yields a tankie, a Fascist or a (Neo)liberal depending on which ideological bundle of slogans they've unquestioningly adopted.

Brainrot. That's how. Some people just aren't very resilient to propaganda. Actually... Huge numbers of people aren't.

Frankly I suspect many pinch hit for both teams.

RF is a Cult of personality, pretending to be a Mafia, pretending to be an empire. pretending to be a gas station masquerading as a state.

Careful you'll get banned from .ml for saying that... :)-

The best part is that he is a very well paid software engineer living in ThE WeSt.

Couldn't be more of a hypocrite if he fuckin' tried.

When in ml, do as the red fascists do.

Yeah, the reason he's so happy about everything Russia does is that he's a software engineer with over a decade of experience living in Canada, he's living the cozy life and literally never going back to Russia because he's way too soft for that at this point.

That particular post also got me banned from the community. I said something to the tune that I'll agree with the state department on China, North Korea and Russia/Ukraine, but disagree on Cuba and Israel/Palestine, which probably makes me more of a leftist than all those dictator simping tankies. Someone did not like me pointing that out.

You ever point out to those people that Russia and China are very much NOT communist countries nowadays and people only simp for them because it's opposition to American global hegemony... Yeah you'll just get banned. I've been banned from .ml memes AND hexbear memes communities by now.

I blocked the cunt very early on. Still looking forward to being able to do @lemmy.ml and get all of them.

Israel “has a right to defend herself”

It does but what it does far exceeds legitimate defence. And what it does also isn't building Zionism because antagonising people goes directly against the goal of creating a place for Jews to live in peace and prosperity.

I gave up on it when the fucker killed Rabin and it's been a constant slide into full-on fascism since then, as in, fascist modes of thinking captured more and more of Israeli politics to the point where even the left is largely cooked. They may disavow what Amir did but they still share his outlook towards "security". They may not be actively genocidal but still support "antagonise until Palestinians give up". The situation is fucked in pretty much every way that a situation can possibly be fucked.

Could you elaborate on Cuban or Cuban-sponsored terrorism? I mostly agree with the US positions on these except for Cuba and maybe Israel. I also don't know Cuba that well. I know that some Cuban protests are suppressed, but I'm pretty sure that's not what terrorism means.

Hey, no judgement, but we're trying to cut down use of the r-term around here, as a courtesy to those who it's been used to unfairly hurt. Just for future reference.

I wonder how many of them work in russia and china. their shittakes are hilariously tanky

I kind of wish they are trolling and we're dumb for taking the bait. I mean it's unlikely as I've met true believers (both Nazi and tanky) before IRL and these people sound exactly the same, but who knows.

I'm still trying to figure out how to block .ml entirely.

I think this only becomes available to you if your instance is on a certain version.

But we shouldn't just do instance blocks, that's just ignoring the problem. We should all be on the lookout for this kinda BS so we can screenshot, compile and eventually petition our respective instance admins to defederate.

As well as cross-posting any good material you come across from a .ml comm to any other non-.ml comm

Pooh doesn't have a penis, he's been pantsless for like a hundred years I think someone would see it by now.

One of us! One of us! One of us!

Go ahead and explain how, we'll wait... Heh.

In an imperialist war, the left should always want their own bourgeois state to lose, because it weakens it and makes it easier to topple.

Ah, so Poland should have craved defeat when invaded by Nazi Germany?

That's the true proletarian view, right?

So you support full scale mobilisation of NATO to match on Moscow right? That'd end the war right quick.

To be fair, it is hard to hold a proper democratic election with part of a country occupied. Either you hold an election in which people in those areas cant vote and while risking division during a time of crisis, or you dont hold an election and in doing so risk democratic backsliding. Im not really sure that there's a good answer to that situation

How has it tightened its grip on power? I'm genuinely asking, I don't know.

Lincoln did the same thing, for what it's worth, arresting people who published secessionist newspapers and detaining civilians without due process who he said were "dangerous to the public safety." What he said about it was that, in war people get murdered on a massive scale, property gets stolen, cities burn, all the rules go out the window. If that's what we're doing, we might as well do it and try to win.

“Are all the laws but one to go unexecuted, and the Government itself go to pieces lest that one be violated? Even in such a case, would not the official oath be broken if the Government should be overthrown when it was believed that disregarding the single law would tend to preserve it?”

I'm not saying I agree as pertains to Ukraine. Like I said I really don't know what has been happening with them. Ukraine has famously had a pretty corrupt government as all the post-Soviet states tended to do, and I am in favor of the upsetting story of them trying to replace it with something decent, all the while at the mercy of massive powers on all sides which don't have their best interests at heart.

Well I'm sure you have sources or examples right?