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1y ago

I can’t believe I’m siding with the South Park guys here

https://www.restaurantbusinessonline.com/workforce/casa-bonita-workers-demand-return-tipping#:~:text=Shortly%20before%20opening%2C%20Casa%20Bonita's,wage%20of%20%2430%20per%20hour.

Shortly before opening, Casa Bonita’s new owners Matt Stone and Trey Parker decided to eliminate tipping and instead pay workers a flat wage of $30 per hour.

Now I could be wrong, but getting a an hourly wage as a restaurant worker is FAR better than relying on tips. I feel like either workers in this situation are too obsessed with tips or there’s huge context missing.

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You dont have to agree with everything they do, but Southpark is the only show that are not afraid to discuss certains subjects. Dead Children should be mandatory to watch for every us citizens.
EDIT: In view of the many responses to this post, i'd like to add that if you really think south park is a right-wing show, you're showing your interchangeability. By that I mean that I firmly believe that people who are incapable of discussion and questioning their ideas are similar, no matter what side they're on. I'm convinced that if you'd been born in Texas into a conservative family, you'd be parading around in a pickup truck against drag queens in schools right now. It's simply a question of life context that makes you here now.
- Its a really fucking stupid show most of the time though
  
  Yea who gives a fuck if they "discuss issues other wouldnt" if their take away is always the exact same, which is if you care strongly about anything one way or thenother you're as bad as the other side and the correct approach is to do whatever you want and anybody who tries to make you feel bad about that is the real dummy.
  
  Well, here's a clear-cut and poorly explained opinion. Not much to help move things forward. Anyway, I disagree. Even when I don't agree with some of the show's ideas, their ideas are never simplistic and it has the merit of forcing me to think about why and how I disagree, which is already more than 95% of the uncompromising content you find these days.
  
  Theres no explanation to have, its a stupid fucking show that mostly just propaganda for white libertarians
  
  Well, as you seem to hold all the absolute truths, I'll leave you with your certainties and continue to believe that complex subjects often have complex answers, and that the world is cruelly lacking in intellectual nuance. I also suggest you look up what propaganda really means.
  
  I am very sorry for whatever life circumstances and/or choices have lead to you thinking that south park is a nuanced and intelligent show. In 2023 no less.
  It's a cartoon made for edgy-brained cable TV watchers, most of whom started watching it when they were literal children.
  
  The main message of the show is that those edgy brain dead cable TV watchers are smarter than anybodybwho cares strongly about a topic in wither direction.
  N word? People who get really upset and don't think white people should say it are the same as virulent racists.
  Climate change? People who think it's real might be right but they're so I sufferable its better to do nothing.
  Political correctness? The greatest threat facing our country in the caliber year 2016. If you think people should be politically correct you're the same as a racist Trump supporter.
  You can see why the dumbest people in the world think it's a smart show, because the show told the dumbest people in the world they've actually got it all figured out.
  
  No need to feel sorry for me, nomatter how much you'd like to make me feel stupid, the fact is that my whole life and career have been about telling me that I'm not. I rather think it's this sub that's filled with a edgy-brained caricature of little vigilantes hiding behind a keyboard, who've probably never achieved anything concrete that would actually be coherent with their speech, but who take refuge behind the idea that they're intellectually superior.
  
  dawg every comment you make is completely off the rails like what the hell are you doing here lmao
  people said south park is a dumb and bad show that promotes bad ideas and you're seemingly one step away from sending me your CV for some reason
  
  See, this is not argument. This is "GHnuF, YOu SToPID LOL" level.
  
  you are really bad at this
  
  Oops, you did it again. You are incapable of coming up with a single idea that is worth discussing, only insults, lol. I feel like I'm talking to a Trump supporter at that point.
  
  Why bother with more? You don't deserve it.
  
  Seriously? I'm 42. I teach in a College and work in research in University. I have a master's degree from U of Montreal and a Doctorate from Concordia. I've read more books then you will in your entire life. My mom is from a first nation community and my dad is a french canadian. I think this sub is fucking pathetic. I'm not sure what exactly Chappo is, but it's seems you people need them to tell you what to think. You guys are behaving EXACTLY like Trump supporters: privilege white people behaving like they are better then everyone. Toxic AF. Wannna tell me about you? Did you ever accomplished anything interesting or do you just tell people on the internet they suck to make you feel good?
  
  How old are you jfc
  
  Dropped shrooms and this guy sounds like im listening to the ramblings of a cocky peasant in some ancient fable who's about to go strike a wasp's nest because God told him he's wise enough not to get hurt or something
  
  You are the people getting mad about a cartoon, not me, lol. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of you have never even met a trans person. South Park makes fun of everyone, it would have been insulting not to make fun of them. Cause you're definitively no helping. You people are the meanest community I've ever seen on the internet. A bunch of white privilege losers who listen to a bunch of white privilege losers talking about how their superior mind could save the world. Bla fucking bla. Et allez vous faire foutre ceux qui critiquent mon anglais, petite bande d'élite linguistique unilingue.
  
  42
  gets mad when a cartoon is criticized
  Interesting
  
  Thats a canadian "adult" for you
  
  Aren't you the ones who are made about it? Cause I actually enjoy South Park!
  
  i fucking knew you were going to post CV in this thread god damn you are hilarious
  
  my dad is a french canadian
  I'm so sorry to hear that, hope you are healing well 🙏
  
  New liberal copypasta lol south park sucks
  Seriously? I'm 42. I teach in a College and work in research in University. I have a master's degree from U of Montreal and a Doctorate from Concordia. I've read more books then you will in your entire life. My mom is from a first nation community and my dad is a french canadian. I think this sub is fucking pathetic. I'm not sure what exactly Chappo is, but it's seems you people need them to tell you what to think. You guys are behaving EXACTLY like Trump supporters: privilege white people behaving like they are better then everyone. Toxic AF. Wannna tell me about you? Did you ever accomplished anything interesting or do you just tell people on the internet they suck to make you feel good?
  
  Oh BTW guy who's read more books than anyone, you used 'then' where you should have used 'than'. One denotes chronology like "@Yerbouti@lemmy.ml made a cringe brag post, THEN Hexbear dunked on him' whereas 'Than' indicates a comparison as in "Hexbear posters are are smarter THAN @Yerbouti@lemmy.ml and better looking too"
  
  Holy shit this is a good bit.
  
  Part french canadian and claims indigenous heritage but incredibly vaguely. Lol you must be the final boss of annoying canadians
  
  Seriously? I'm 42. I teach in a College and work in research in University. I have a master's degree from U of Montreal and a Doctorate from Concordia. I've read more books then you will in your entire life. My mom is from a first nation community and my dad is a french canadian. I think this sub is fucking pathetic. I'm not sure what exactly Chappo is, but it's seems you people need them to tell you what to think. You guys are behaving EXACTLY like Trump supporters: privilege white people behaving like they are better then everyone. Toxic AF. Wannna tell me about you? Did you ever accomplished anything interesting or do you just tell people on the internet they suck to make you feel good?
  
  Hey post more stupid shit, this is great
  
  k
  
  South Park is for juvenile contrarians and baby brained libertarians. There nothing complex about it.
  
  It's certainly more nuanced and intelligent than the majority of people who reply to me here and seem incapable of any argument other than insults. So far I've mostly add positive interaction on Lemmy, this community is fill with people who seem to live beyond their intellectual means.
  
  Give one example of the show actually making a good argument.
  
  I feel like this sub is just privilege wannabes justice warriors, there's nothing complex about all the point people are making. insults are not a valid argument.
  
  you are defending a show with one of the most transphobic caricatures ever made on a site that is largely queer or queer-positive. i don't know what you expect man. you have to give examples to prove your point if you want people to engage in detail, but instead you revert directly to calling your critics idiots (in the most reddit-brained passive aggressive humblebragging way possible) for simply stating their contrary opinion.
  
  Lol, I'm trying to discuss, it's actually all of people who cant accept challenging idea without resorting to insults. You really didn't get the point of the show on trans people I see. It is in fact a reflection on the way in which majorities often have the possibility of appropriating the reality of minorities to turn it into ridicule. I am very serious, you should consider watching it again.
  
  you should consider not filling your cranium with potato soup each morning
  
  It's not challenging. It's juvenile
  
  lmfao ms. garrison is one of the most disgusting caricatures of trans people ever created and you are an idiot for defending that shit. it's blatantly obvious. they might as well replace the jewish characters with harry potter goblins. i'm not talking about any particular episode, any with ms. garrison are just vile disgusting transphobia.
  
  I am very serious
  for some reason people arent believing the "I am very serious" shirt i put on each morning before logging on to tell a lemmy instance for trans socialists that the blatantly transphobic right wing show for edgy teenage libertarians i like is actually a progressive left wing show
  
  Calling anybody who points out libertarians are vapid morons "privellaged wannabee justice warriors" could be an entire season of Southpark.
  Nobody is surprised the dumbshit libertarian dude thinks Southpark is clever and subversive.
  
  Starting to think the ML in Lemmy.ml stands for machine learning, because there's no way an adult human writes like this
  
  Sorry for sounding like an AI to you. I actually speak 4 langages, doing my best to translate my thoughts in english because people like you cant understand anything else.
  
  I actually speak 4 languages
  Congratulations.
  You're on a Marxist forum with users all over the world, not Reddit.
  Being multilingual isn't fucking special, most of the world is, and most of our users are.
  
  Lol, that was an explanation for why my english might sound off. But anything I would say to an idiot like you would'nt change anything, You are at least as stupid as the right-wingers idiot. ANd you only speak one langage, so come back when you say a few words in any other langage.
  
  Youre a right winger if you like any american president
  
  See, this is not argument. This is "GHnuF, YOu SToPID LOL" level.
  
  If you think the ideas presented in South Park aren't simplistic then that's a problem with you and not everyone else
- Lol no the Southpark guys don't "discuss topics" they present the center right side as objectively true and then portay any leftwing position as a loony caricature and then say "well I guess both sides have opinions" all the while relying on the audience to agree with the right. Like occasionally they will pick on the fascist right, but only when they get so outrageous you can't not make fun of them.
  Their episodes on trans people were unquestionably some of the most disgusting bits of propaganda I have ever seen, and I see a fucking ton of it.
- Lmfao nobody else was brave enough to say that Al gore was a lunatic
  
  Representing global warming as the Manbearpig as if it's some imaginary threat was a bold move, but also a very dumb one.
  At least they acknownledged that mistake in later episodes, but they still have a lot of reactionary takes like in the episode about plant based burgers.
  
  Also they apologized for one of their full length episodes dedicated to shitting onnpeople who care about climate change.
  They bring up anything about the episode where they said the smugness of people who care about climate change is worse than the actual effects of climate change.
  Where people who wanted electric vehicles were so obsessed with sniffing their own farms it caused a storm like in the day after tomorrow.
  
  Ah yes I forgot about that episode, it was so stupid.
  
  This is an interesting example. They actually did a whole episode where they admitted they were wrong about Al Gore 15 years ago and have been discussing climate change in different ways since. In this age where no one ever admits to being wrong about anything, I thought it was refreshing and rather brave indeed.
  
  You dont have to agree with everything they do
  In this age where no one ever admits to being wrong about anything
  You talk in very interesting cliches, I will simply give 0 credit to the South Park goons
  
  "You talk in very interesting cliches, I will simply give 0 credit to the South Park goons"
  This kind of intransigence seems to me to show an inability for nuance and intellectual abstraction. Personally, I think it's this kind of attitude that has led to political cleavage and radicalization in recent years, and ultimately to the popularity of monstrous figures like Trump.
  
  I think right-wing propaganda, like TV shows watched by children that tell the viewer climate change isn't real, trans people are monsters and it's okay to use homophobic slurs, is much more heavily responsible for the rise of Trump, actually
  
  If you think SP is right-wing progaganda, you are as intellectually deep as people who think school are full of drag-queens. You really really didn't get the point of the episode on trans and slurs.
  
  No you're just carrying water for bigots.
  Every one of the episodes ends with a sanctimonious lecture about how people who care are just as bad as bigots and the morally correct stance is to do whatever you want and if anybody gets offended they're an idiot.
  The Trans episode was literally "being Trans is the same as somebody who wants to be black so they're good at basketball or a guy who wants to be a dolphin"
  
  someone pulled out the thesaurus
  
  me when i see the political cleavage:
  
  Oh wow they retracted one of their objectively shitty opinions a mere two decades late.
  They made a retraction for their "being Trans is the same as a guy who wants to be a dolphin" episode
  What about all the ones where the black character named token black reads line written by them explaining to white people why they shouldn't feel bad about saying racial slurs?
  Also pretty sure that episode was during the season where they spent the entire season calling out what the biggest problem in America was in 2016, people being too politically correct.
  
  Boy, you really can't get second degree can't you? The show on n word is the more complex and intelligent take on the subject I've seen coming from the US. It actually explaines to white people why they should'nt use racial slurs. Read my other comment about the trans one.
  
  No I'm not gonna read any more of your drivel Ive seen the episodes you're either lying or a moron.
  One of the N word episodes included a joke about how to get forgiveness randy had to kiss Jess Jackson's ass because he elected himself king of black people and was just using it for personal gain and didn't actually care about minorities.
  Complex and intelligent to the 4th graders it's targeting, which I'm hoping is who I'm talking to now.
  
  I'll have you know this child is 42 years old.
  
  :large adult son:
  
  They never should have taken that donkey-headed opinion in the first place
- They have funny episodes and moments, but outside of shock value I find it mostly annoying. These guys cover the most recent topics and try to come up with some centrist take within a week. I don’t know if they’re still doing the overarching storyline for each season, but at least when I watched it it was rather stale and ignorant
  
  The funny episodes are the ones about how ridiculous kids can be and aren't political, like the superhero one, or the Lord of the Rings one, or the one where they play with weapons.
  I think Trey and Matt realize it too, because all of the recent South Park games are about those, and they actually need to sell those games.
- By that I mean that I firmly believe that people who are incapable of discussion and questioning their ideas are similar, no matter what side they're on.
  Most of us here on hexbear were born and raised in western countries, many of us in the exact sort of conservative families you're talking about. Yet we are all here today advocating for the most heavily demonized political positions in these countries. We're communists and anarchists. We want a fundamentally different system.
  And you think we are the ones who are "incapable of questioning ideas"? Hilarious.
  I'm older than you by the way, which obviously means that I'm right and you're wrong
- interchangeability. By that I mean that I firmly believe that people who are incapable of discussion and questioning their ideas are similar, no matter what side they're on.
  when you're too dumb to come up with a clever insult so you make up a definition
  
  It's actually how it's define in french. Maybe it doesn't translate well in english. Do your part for equality and look it up lol. Anyway can you come up with anything else than insults? For a bunch of open-minded boys, you sure all use the same the same rhetoric as right-wing fascists.
  
  "being rude to me is the same thing as fascism"
  jesus christ son that doctorate is meaningless isn't it
  
  tbh I'm stupid but not stupid enough to spend 3600 a year for 6 years for a sentence on a CV stupid
  
  spending tens of thousands of dollars so that when your dumb opinions get challenged you can cry about having a doctorate and being mother's special smart boy (at 42)
  
  Hey, watch your mouth or I'll talk to the king of england and get you deported to louisiana again
- I'm convinced that if you'd been born in Texas into a conservative family, you'd be parading around in a pickup truck against drag queens in schools right now.
  So you're saying this is cool with you? No wonder you like South Park.
- You are a Rick and Morty guy except for south park, which is somehow even more embarrassing
  
  Actually you need to have a very shitty sense of humor to appreciate South Park

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