Nato summit: Ukraine on 'irreversible path' to membership
Nato summit: Ukraine on 'irreversible path' to membership
The alliance also pledges more aid to Ukraine, but China warns it to stop "provoking confrontation".
Nato members have pledged their support for an "irreversible path" to future membership for Ukraine, as well as more aid.
While a formal timeline for it to join the military alliance was not agreed at a summit in Washington DC, the military alliance's 32 members said they had "unwavering" support for Ukraine's war effort.
Nato has also announced further integration with Ukraine's military and members have committed €40bn ($43.3bn, £33.7bn) in aid in the next year, including F-16 fighter jets and air defence support.
The bloc's Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said: "Support to Ukraine is not charity - it is in our own security interest."
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But they knew from day 1 that Ukraine couldnt win. And now that its obvious to everyone else, what is gained by escallating war, spending billions of dollars and killing hundreds of thousands of people?
Everybody thought that Ukraine would fall within a week but it's been able to go toe to toe with Russia for over two years. Ukraine has every right to defend itself, destroy Russian forces invading it, and join whatever organization it wants. It's a free sovereign nation. If spending a few billion dollars means we destroy Russia's capacity to wage war and help Ukraine defend itself, then so be it. Russia can get fucked. They're the aggressors and they deserve what they're getting.
So long story short, you are okay if a hundred thousand extra Ukrainians die if russia is harmed a bit? That is literally what you are saying, the war could have been over a long long time ago but the west offered weapons and money for them to keep conscripting people to fight a war.
Shut the fuck up tankie. You're sitting here trying to justify Russia's genocidal invasion of Ukraine which has killed hundreds of thousands of people, and now you're turning around blaming the victims and the people who are standing behind them for defending themselves? Seriously, get fucked. You and Putin's evil regime.
I am not justifying anything I am just explaining your ideology. Let me do it for you one more time. Path 1 - negotiate peace long ago, and Ukraine loses. Path 2 - give Ukraine weapons so they can harm russia a little bit at the cost of tens of thousands of Ukrainians, and Ukraine loses with more territory lost.
You have chosen path 2.
No dumbass, it's more like this:
Path 1 - Russia doesn't invade and leaves Ukraine the fuck alone
Path 2 - Russia invades, turns itself into a pariah state, and gets fucked up by Ukraine
Russia chose path 2 and they're paying the price for it. Ukraine is not the wrong, the West is not in the wrong, only Russia is. The only thing Ukraine and the West didn't do wrong is that they haven't fucked Russia hard enough yet.
Uh... Ukraine is going to lose, its not in question, but you are the one that wants more people to die to harm a country that shouldnt matter to the US. Life is not a movie, sometimes the guy you like loses.
Tankies are truly the most retarded creatures in existence. Not only is Russia getting fucked over in Ukraine, but Russia is the one and ONLY aggressor in this conflict. You can smack your empty head against the wall until it cracks, this basic truth isn't changing. Now go enjoy your "world's second military" getting absolutely wrecked by a smaller, poorer, weaker country that you invaded as a part of a "3 day operation" that lasted over two years. Russia is winning my ass.
If you dont think Ukraine is about to lose then you dont know anything that is going on. Its only in doubt if you only ever listen to propaganda and believe it. Lots of dead people but hey russia got hurt a little!
Says the retarded tankie who consumes nothing but Russian propaganda. Russia literally doomed itself as a nation. Their economy is in shambles, they wrecked their navy (including their flagships), they burned through all their stockpiles (they literally have to beg Iran and North Korea for help), they lost all politically credibility, they reunited the West, they helped expand NATO with the additions of Sweden and Finland (which doubled the border between NATO and Russia, so much for the nuke threats lmao), their traditional allies alienated them like Armenia and Kazakhstan, they gutted their military, they lost the propaganda image that they built up for decades, nobody buys their narratives anymore, they killed hundreds of thousands of their own young men whilst already going through one of the worst demographic collapses in history, they turned into a pariah state, and list goes on and on.
All of this, for what? Ukraine is still standing strong after two years, the world is standing firmly behind them, they managed to recapture well over half of the territory that Russia occupied, they're now they're now launching attacks deep into the Russian heartland, and Ukraine is about to establish air superiority with the influx of F16s which would give them a very heavy upperhand in this war of attrition.
Zelensky is truly the comedian of the century, he managed to turn Russia into a joke. There's very little now stopping Chechnya or Dagestan or Tatarstan or any of these occupied republics from declaring independence. What is Putin going to do? Invade them? He couldn't even help little Armenia right next to Russia after Azerbaijan invaded them because they're so bogged down in Ukraine even though he was legally obligated to by the invocation of the common defense clause of the CSTO, Russia's sad version of NATO. Russia quite literally has nothing else besides throwing the very last of it's young men at a losing war and threatening nuclear war.
Funny thing is that they will NEVER do it even though the entire West is calling them out on their bluff. Putin and his cronies know that if they tried anything, NATO would destroy them so hard and so fast it wouldn't even be funny. This war Marks the beginning of the end for Russia in it's current form. Like I said, winning my ass.
Sorry man I am not reading all of that. Just know that whatever propaganda you have been fed is so that you respond just like you are responding. Ukraine is going to lose, and we have wasted tens of thousands of lives and billions of dollars for no gain, and a bunch of other things I could tell you about but you wouldnt understand.