So the issue is that this is not what they are referring to. What they are talking about is when the FBI (and CIA) get involved in politics or directly sway things in direction that is outside of what the FBI is for.

Flip phone or non internet phone. We have a phone for the kids, but its not one that can get them to the internet or sending pictures.

Or directly fighting them and having a 40 year long cold war. Maybe most of those countries have been in direct war with russia in recent memory.

My main point is any philosophy about where humans came from is a matter of faith. I was just pointing out the issue where evolution doesnt sufficiently explain things, but most atheists are aware of this or just handwave away the problem.

I suppose on picking a religion you would need to look at what makes the most logical sense, and is most consistent. Also I would look at what has the best track record with the best outcome.

So then what would you say to a person that wont use preferred pronouns of a trans person?

The problem is that DNA and associated parts are too complex to evolve, so there is no explaination how it would have gotten to that point. You can say that religion doesnt do a good job explaining, but the various religions have one even though its kind of cheating. Evolution seems impossible without another unknown factor which makes it another faith based system.

You are correct that they didnt offer it yet, but it was on the table, and NATO knew that was the reddest of red lines. You also do even know why russia took over Crimea in the first place.

And yes, how america would react is imporant because it shows how we really feel, not just propaganda about how they can do what they please.

How did the Heritage Foundation significantly help Orban?

Except that the cuban missle crises shows the US completely disagrees (unless it is convenient at that moment). Do you not see how this war was 100% avoidable if nato did not cross the directly drawn line?

The problem with this theory is that we dont have a complete explanation for existence without the existence of a higher power.

What would you say to a person that wont use preferred pronouns of a trans person?

So then nato gets to constantly aggress on them and they cant do anything? And then you are shocked that they invaded.

You are just making up their intentions based on nothing.

A really big history... Take a peak at what countries are in nato and realize they have a long history of being directly in conflict with Russia/Soviet Union.

Yeah, lemmy kind of sucks if you dont just repeat the lines you are supposed to. I am not a trump voter, the closest thing would be libertarian, but I dont like their candidate either. I dont think trump was particularly good president, but all the rest have been so bad its not a high bar to be better than Biden and Bush. I just mainly get annoyed that 80% of the things that get said are just lies or misleading, and if you point that out people freak the fuck out.

Thats true, but what if we had listened to them and prevented hundreds of thousands of dead people? Why would that have been bad?

You guys literally just claim things without any evidence... You guys have lost to plot

Let me get this straight the conservatives in Oregon (which have no power) forced through legistlation... Sure thing bro!

Thats funny, I was born and raised in Portland and now it sucks due to the type of policies people like you advocate for.

That could be how you would mean it, but that is not how I interpret it or how they intended it.