I appreciate you calling out the use of the term "normie". Communities that frequently use such terms always end up with an unhealthy "us vs them" mentality.
Like I'm not surprised people don't react well to someone bringing up privacy issues if said person starts the conversation with the mentality of "how do I enlighten this normie?"
What's hilarious is that it becomes normalized by a majority in a community then a minority breaks off once it does and the cycle starts again. It's normies all the way down.
That's neither here nor there and sidesteps the point. Also, depending on how you define normies and nerds, it's a bit silly. You can't imagine a random person being worked up by being called names online. I mean, okay, if you say so.
"Layperson" is a neutral term that simply refers to someone who is not an expert or professional in a particular field.
On the other hand, "normie" is a slang term. It's often used pejoratively to describe someone who is perceived as mainstream or conventional in their tastes, interests, or behaviors, especially in contrast to subcultures that value niche, specialized, or unconventional interests. The term can carry a dismissive or derogatory tone, implying that the person is out of touch with certain subcultures or lacks depth in their interests. This can make it offensive to some, as it suggests a judgment on their personal preferences or social identity.
The difference in offensiveness comes down to intent and perception: "layperson" is descriptive and objective, while "normie" can be used to exclude or demean.
Yes, it means layperson, but with derogatory cense. It is like using the n-word to describe black people (though not as extreme). If you mean average user, just say average user, unless you really mean to use derogatory term, that is.
I find it a very confusing term aswell because what does it even define? I always arrive on it being a synonymous to neurotypical outside the autistic context.
downvoting is a form of expression, to label downvoting as disrespectful based on a narrow definition limits freedom of expression and overlooks the nuances.
im a democratic socialist so voting is important to me.
I'm all for duologue, but there is a voting system, its very accessible more so than typing. Don't you think this is a bit short sited and in reverse should people avoid voting in general good and bad?
Weird fallback, I dont see this as relevant to our discussion so I won't be explaining "why people shouldn't take "normie" as a pejorative, or why using potential insults is a good thing."
It implies them having that complex, thinking they know better than, as another comment pointed out, some nerds.
You know, that kind of people thinking their degree of social anthropology or whatever makes them smarter than you in every area. Because whatever they are doing is important and whatever you are doing is toys for nerds.
I can imagine a social butterfly looking down on nerds. Although I gotta level with you: that sounds like something that would primarily occur in high school to me. Maybe you're grown and still dealing with that, but either way: using the term normies is not going to help at all, I assure you.
Maybe you’re grown and still dealing with that, but either way: using the term normies is not going to help at all, I assure you.
This seems common sense to you, right?
Well, I, being almost 28, am just starting to realize that you should carefully measure both respect and disrespect, and there may be too little or too much of both.
Maybe not "social butterfly", I'm just thinking of all the people thinking they now know what is serious in life. A surprising amount don't have complex hobbies or even deep cultural familiarity with their own profession.
And if that profession is more about talking to people than about conceptualization (many typical office jobs), or maybe it is descriptive, not creative (like many liberal arts degrees), they are going to be dismissive of people who actually make things.
Watching and doing is different, and people watching often think too much of their ability to do stuff, just like with sports or music or cars or warfare or porn.
EDIT: The point was that sometimes it's better to be honest and use such means to inform people that they don't know what they are talking about.
Not at all; they could have an inferiority complex too. So you're assuming things; AND upon those assumptions judging the argument based on the characteristics of the person arguing instead of the argument at hand. So you've managed a DOUBLE fallacy somehow... good job, you're a perfect fit for lemmy! :D
Yeah, OP was for sure putting people down with this meme. You're arguing in bad faith here, putting aside the very obvious for the sake of having an argument.
Discord is built on Chromium, which is the main concern I have heard. I've yet to see any evidence that they're mining user data, which is a valid concern. They've done a shockingly good job of funding themselves without selling user info thus far.
They've done a shockingly good job of funding themselves without selling user info thus far.
to my cynical ass, this just looks like they (and their investors) are more interested in being acquired (with their treasure trove of user data fully exclusive) than in opening up short term revenue streams.
I've written software you use every day. Apache, NGinx, and a bunch of CNCF projects. I'm just as good as you at tech, likely better, and have a full understanding. I didn't give a crap.
Opinions like yours are the essence of fedora anti culture that paints a picture of the asshole IT guy.