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It keeps turning out that everything they say is true. Hell, even Amnesty has an article from 2015 saying they used hospitals for torture. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2015/05/gaza-palestinians-tortured-summarily-killed-by-hamas-forces-during-2014-conflict/
Whoa crazy an empty disused office being used for a single offense 10 years ago. This is definite proof that the entire hospital is a Hamas command center.
Now show me that massive Hamas base under Al-Shifa that the IDF actually claimed existed
This War Of Mine?
Better bomb some civilians, snipe some little girls, ruin infrastructure, stop ambulances, and flood the sewers so those Palestinian scu.. I mean Hamas, can learn their place... There, justified.
When it comes to human shields, the only independent verification back in 2014 (Amnesty link) is of Weapons (not rockets) hidden at a vacant school, situated btwn 2 UNRWA schools housing displaced people, by a Palestinian armed group.
The Guardian journalists had encountered a couple individuals in 2014 too.
HRW on Laws-of-War Violations 2009
Amnesty on Hamas War Crimes 2023
Yet none of those come remotely close to making hospitals and schools bombing targets. Even if all the IDF claims were true, that does not exempt those hospitals and schools as protected under international law.
While we're on the subject, let's look at how the IDF uses Human Shields including Children (2013 Report)
This comment really fits your username.
No it doesn't and I'm not pro-Stalin either. Do you think human rights orgs are pro Hamas or something? Even if the human shields argument was true it doesn't justify bombing civilians (that are mostly women and children). Hamas has done war crimes and deserve to be prosecuted for them same as every Israeli official who's done war crimes. More terrorism against the Palestinian people will only increase support for armed militia groups. Ending the apartheid by giving Palestinians human rights and improving the QoL is how you take away any support for those kind of armed groups.
The only way to replace apartheid is with a democratic system.
The West Bank is like an open-air prison where you send petty criminals who are allowed more time to go outside and work outside. And there's no harsh regime inside but it's still a prison. Even the Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, if he moves from Area B to C, he needs the Israelis to open the gate for him. And that's for me very symbolic, the fact that the president cannot move without the Israeli jailer opening the cage.
There is, of course, a Palestinian response all the time to this. Palestinians are not passive and they don't accept it. We saw the first Intifada and the second Intifada, and perhaps we will see a third Intifada. The Israelis say to the Palestinians, in a prison management mentality, that if you resist we will take away all your privileges, like we do in prison. You won't be able to work outside. You won't be able to move freely, and you will be punished collectively. This is the kind of the punitive side of it, collective punishment as retaliation.
INTERVIEW: Ilan Pappé: How Israel turned Palestine into the biggest prison on earth
Israel controls all aspects of movement, Water, Air space, Sea access, borders, Imports (food and building supplies), Labor exploitation, and maintain the apartheid through violence
A prison, also known as a jail, gaol, penitentiary, detention center, correction center, correctional facility, or remand center, is a facility where people are confined against their will and denied a variety of freedoms under the authority of the state, generally as punishment for various crimes. Authorities most commonly use prisons within a criminal-justice system: people charged with crimes may be imprisoned until their trial; those who have pled or been found guilty of crimes at trial may be sentenced to a specified period of imprisonment.
It is absolutely an open air prison, except you get in just by being born inside the OPTs with the only court you'll ever see being a military court where even children can be taken from their families indefinitely with administrative detention
git em
Woah there nice argument buddy. The username is kinda funny so everything he says must be wrong! Ad hominem much?
Ad haminas
Welcome to Hamas
Don't spread facts here.. someone might mistake hamas as the bad guys. God forbid.
Bad guys being used as an excuse by other bad guys to commit atrocities.
Yeah, only an idiot would think the IDF are shooting civilians for no good reason. It's OBVIOUSLY because they're all hamas. All of them, everywhere.
On that same token, the "girl" with the narrow hips who struck my daughter out in softball is OBVIOUSLY trans, Orson Welles is OBVIOUSLY a communist and Iraq OBVIOUSLY has nukes.