6d ago

The wokes are ruining my Lemmy!

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Aren't world the wokes/libs/whatever is the current pejorative
- Nah world is full of liberals but they get real uppity when you start going after liberalism from the left
  
  This is partly why I've chosen a different instance other than .world. I can control what is and isn't in my feed, and it's not like contemporary American centrist liberals have the best ideas when it comes to the current political landscape.
- Compared to the rest of Lemmy they're not very woke
  
  Well the auth instances hate their wokeness
- Apparently everyone's a "lib" when you're an authoritarian
  
  American republicans have less than zero political literacy, and you are going off their understanding of liberal. Here's a 300 page book going through what liberalism meant to every major liberal philosopher and how they dealt with the contradictions over the last 250 years or so. Guess which definition is used in any serious political work in the last 250 years?
  
  To be clear I think using "liberal" to mean "socialist" is just as stupid as using it to mean "economically neo-liberal". Most dictionary definitions concentrate on the actual definition of the word in everyday usage and then also mention the political theory definitions. Choosing your insult to be a word that most people assume means something else is a terrible way to communicate.
  
  You're not wrong, communists do have issues with effective communication. It's not trivial due to definitions and framing propagated by liberal institutions being designed, sometimes intentionally, to make it more difficult to communicate our ideas.
- Nope, Tankie is very clearly defined as "Authoritarian Communists"
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie
  Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support acts of repression by such regimes, their allies, or deny the occurrence of the events thereof. More specifically, the term has been applied to those who express support for one-party Marxist–Leninist socialist republics, whether contemporary or historical. It is commonly used by anti-authoritarian leftists, including anarchists, libertarian socialists, left communists, democratic socialists, and reformists to criticise Leninism, although the term has seen increasing use by liberal and right‐wing factions as well.
  
  liberal is the tankie version of screaming woke at everything.
  Source: you
  
  Little too close for comfort huh
  
  You know how nazis always complain that people call them nazis and that it's losing any meaning?
  Yeah, same thing.
  
  You know how Nazis always complain about woke stuff which does not exist in their life but they only read about?
  Yeah, same thing.
  
  That's a dilemma, how to know if someone yelling everything they don't like is lib & woke is either a maga or a tankie
  
  Tankies don't scream woke, they only scream lib. Hope that helps
  
  They don't scream woke but they still hate discussions about marginalized communities because they are all privileged white class reductionists.
  
  But it makes sense once you think about it. The patriarchy is about ten or twenty times as old as capitalism (depending on the definition). Of cause it will disappear once capitalism is abolished. Racism is about twice as old as capitalism. How could it function without capitalism once again?
  But tbf hexbear does have a sizable trans community
  
  It was more of a rhetorical question, no need to differentiate, synonyms and analogous terms can live in the same bucket
- They're the reddit users that think reddit 2024 is too left wing.
  They're the reddit users that believe the only thing wrong with reddit is too many ads.
  They're the reddit users that think voting is an effective measure in a captured kakistocracy.
  They're the reddit users that believe Biden is most left wing president in US history.
  In short, yes.
  
  They're the reddit users that think voting is all you can do to end fascism.
  They're the reddit users that think if you question authority you must love the other party's authority.
  They're the reddit users that think anything to the left of them must be ignored, and anything to the right of them is just misunderstood.
  .world has more insufferable people than any other community, it has the most spots on my blocklist. I'd block the entire thing if it didn't cripple my hobby communities and some of the few good ones from it.
  
  It's funny that the lemming above you is downvoted, while you're upvoted lmao
  
  I don't understand it. Sometimes you agree with someone, you get downvoted and they get upvoted. Or vice versa. Or you're downvoted like crazy, you come back after a few hours, the tallies are swapped.
  I don't get lemmy sometimes.
  
  Commies always have huge block lists. It's like their own private little gulag for thought crimes.
  I'm glad you're not the majority.
  
  This is bizarrely funny to me.

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