olivecrest @ olivecrest @lemm.ee

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And I would encourage avoiding collateral damage whenever possible.

Or maybe activist can focus on causing damage to directly to Musk. Like maybe we should all always try to avoid collateral damage when we can.

Not that hard to do.

Agree: Musk is the one hurting Tesla owners

Agree: US Government doesn’t care about collateral damage

I just would encourage folks who want to hurt Musk to focus on action that hurts Musk. Causing collateral damage is not fair or helpful - best to avoid it whenever possible.

At this point they’d get almost nothing for it - certainly not enough to buy a replacement car.

I’m just saying it helps to carefully target the people you actually are trying to hurt. It doesn’t help a movement if they start hurting bystanders.

What if a person bought a Tesla 10 years ago (before folks knew what an asshole Musk was) to reduce dependence on foreign oil.

Do you think that person deserves to have their car vandalized?

I am 100% in support of boycotting Tesla.

Just if someone bought a Tesla as their personal vehicle 10 years ago because they wanted an environmentally friendly car - before we knew what an asshole Musk was - I don’t think they deserve to have their personal property damaged/destroyed.

Valid.

Most people I know keep a car for 10+ years. The Thai thing was like six years ago and he wasn’t on my radar before then.

Lots of people aren’t online as much as you and I are. They might have bought an EV for environmental reasons 10 years ago without even noticing who owned the company.

Not everyone is online as much as we are. Lots of people are utterly unaware that ever happened.

Agree. Plus they are utterly ridiculous.

Counter point = some folks bought Tesla (the normal ones not the weird “truck” things) because they wanted a more environmentally friendly option for a car. Back before awareness that Musk is an asshole was common.

Like some of the owners might be regretful but not in a position to sell at a huge loss and buy a different EV.

Looking for an answer to this as well. I’m non violent 100% - but open to civil disobedience. If bad people are putting good people in jail I’m ok going to jail. Not to be a martyr, but if it has a chance of making a difference. Just not sure what to do.