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  • You guys are like mid 20s you're not youths. You're old news now.

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  • Millions of addicts can't be wrong!

  • Vegan Parents Help Please
  • Well her three kids are all great! Her first pregnancy went complication free, twins needed a c section because umbilical tangles. All healthy as, super sweet, and the eldest is extremely articulate and agreeable for a 2 year old. I don't usually like kids under 5ish but I'll hang out with them any day, very low stress relatively!

    She did find some people were judgey, but surpringly not the healthcare people. They mostly seemed happy at her not being an antivax weirdo and keeping active!

    Best of luck!

  • Vegan Parents Help Please
  • Well her three kids are all great! Her first pregnancy went complication free, twins needed a c section because umbilical tangles. All healthy as, super sweet, and the eldest is extremely articulate and agreeable for a 2 year old. I don't usually like kids under 5ish but I'll hang out with them any day, very low stress relatively!

    She did find some people were judgey, but surpringly not the healthcare people. They mostly seemed happy at her not being an antivax weirdo and keeping active!

    Best of luck!

  • Vegan Parents Help Please
  • Idk what stage you're at. I showed my sister your post and she said this:

    I have no literature to share (didn't really look and didn't stumble across anything). Only:

    Prenatal vitamins: vitamin intake super important now, especially Omega-3, iron, choline. Naturelo vegan prenatal vitamin was my pregnancy multivitamin of choice

    Also, it's hard to keep iron up. In twin pregnancy I was taking the max dose of iron, but taking it every two days as there's some evidence that your body produces something (heparin?) in response to iron intake so actually skipping every second day (not doubling the dose either; literally just skipping a day) results in higher uptake. The max recommended dose is 200mg elemental iron. This meant one ferro-grad C, a couple of the bioceuticala iron, and a handful of other iron tablets - with a variety of forms of iron (ferrous bisglycinate, ferrous fumarate, etc)

    And I took vegan choline and Omega-3 separately as well

    It's very possible to have a perfectly healthy vegan pregnancy. Hey, I carried twins to 40 weeks!

  • America is in danger of Fascism
  • brain dead take.

    Always a racist slave state? sure. A military cult since like 1910? sure. A broken oligarchy? sure.

    Fascist? defs heading that way. Not always.

  • Do animals have emotions like us?
  • I postulate that there comes a point where language is required to achieve a higher state of emotion.

    Right, just so we're clear you're making shit up and clothing it in the language of science.

    I am not banning you yet because I'm not sure you quite understand what you just implied but it's hard not to read this as a claim that humans with different capacities for language don't reach your enlightened heights of emotional complexity.

    That is a very dangerous attitude which has been used to justify absolutely horrendous stuff.

    Do you uh, wanna backpedal from that claim?

  • Do animals have emotions like us?
  • This is a pretty strange stance to argue. As far as I can see you're saying:

    1. we can't know another animal's emotional state
    2. some humans rarely have abnormalities in how they feel emotions
    3. from 1 and 2 it is possible that emotional capacity is not universal in animals
    4. from 3 it is unlikely non human animals are comparable to human animals in emotional capacity

    I just don't see how you get from 3 to 4. It would seem to me given how similar humans are to at least other mammals, specifically in the neural structures we believe to be where emotions arise and in the behaviours we believe to be emotionally driven, we should strongly suspect they have emotions highly comparable to us and not the reverse.

    Why would the default assumption be they don't?

  • Do animals have emotions like us?
  • I'm bored of this. I thought you had interesting opinions, sorry for my mistake.

  • Life expectancy in Australia has fallen for the first time in about 30 years
  • Depression, anxiety, dementia and chronic liver disease are emerging as some of the fastest-growing chronic conditions.

    Woooh yeah deaths of despair baby!

    Society is going strooooong

    All we've done is massively increase inequality, poisoned the world, taken an axe to social services, and let everyone get infected with a virus that causes cumulative brain and heart damage. Who could have predicted this?

    I'm shocked, shocked and appalled I tell you.

    I miss thinking the future was gonna get better but neoliberalism had entrenched itself so firmly in politics/APS/economics most people don't even realise it's an ideology and not fact, most of the contamination (plastics, pfas, agrichems) are long lived and we're also dependant on them, and climate change is about to get mega spicy if the models are correct and Indonesian, Indian, and islander people are gonna be (rightly) demanding some of this continent's habitable land.

    interesting times ahead for us!

  • Do animals have emotions like us?
  • it's not an analogy it's a thought experiment. I am trying to understand the shape of your ideas.

    So the ability to feel pain is harmed by cybernetics? division from a whole (still no idea what you mean specifically there in the absence of localised organs)? and if you're going to die in about an hour?

  • Do animals have emotions like us?
  • We appear to be imagining different scenarios. Imagine it is freshly amputated and is still alive, or that we amputate it and hook it up to an artificial circulatory system, or indeed my circulatory system but at a distance so nothing else is connected (curious if you think the pain chance changes in that situation).

    I'm sorry, I could have been more explicit. It seemed obvious to me discussing a dead hand was silly but being the internet it's worth clarifying these things.

  • Do animals have emotions like us?
  • wait what? that's an extremely unusual stance!

    What do you mean separated from the whole? all the non hand parts of me are also no longer whole but I am willing to believe amputees, even multiple amputees, even people who have lost the majority of their body can feel pain if their brain is alive and mostly intact.

    This is consistent with my belief that pain experiencing happens in a centralised mass of nervous tissue we call a brain.

    If you don't think centralised masses of nervous tissue are needed to experience pain (required for plants to, given that no brain is something we can prove) what do you think is? Why would a patch of grass have that thing but not a blade of grass (grass lacks localised organs afterall) or my hand?

  • Do animals have emotions like us?
  • Ok, and I opened by acknowledging the hard problem of consciousness but you never actually said that you disagreed with my assertion that my amputated hand doesn't feel pain.

    Do you think my amputated hand feels pain? It would seem that you would have just as much (more maybe! given electric shocks or heat to the fingertips will make it recoil) evidence for it feeling pain as grass. And that all your arguments about grass signalling also apply to my amputated hand.

    If you don't think my amputated hand feels pain (or could be considered at least as likely as grass to) why don't you?

  • Do animals have emotions like us?
  • Also we need to distinguish responding to the environment and even making decisions from experiencing pain.

    I can make a robot from Lego that follows a line pretty well but I think we're all pretty comfortable with the idea it is vanishingly unlikely to feel pain (although there are people who feel punishment machine learning schemes are unethical lol).

  • Do animals have emotions like us?
  • No I'm not, I'm asking why you specifically believe those things to be comparable.

    What specific knowledge do you have which prompts these apparently very deeply held and unusual beliefs?

  • Do animals have emotions like us?
  • Damaged plants can send out signals to other plants, and chemicals to repel what is damaging them (to the specific area where the damage is being done) and repair their damage.

    Could you please explain how this can be distinguished from wound healing in a human. Like what chemicals are sent out? what is the mechanism? are they transported anywhere in particular? are different signals collated in determining a response or does the same hormone guarantee the same response in a dose dependent manner?

    Some plants will avoid growing towards areas that they have been unable to thrive in before.

    This is surprising to me, is it distinct from following chemical gradients? I have never seen this, or heard about it. The closest I would say I have ever seen is not growing towards salt or dry soil. What is the evidence here please as I don't know what you're talking about. Is there a memory effect? if a grass doesn't grow south and you put it in a new area will it also not grow south?

    You still seem to be talking about things from a purely human perspective. Dogs will damage their feet and not even let you know sometimes.

    I'm really not, I had a whole thing about memory and will to live and avoiding areas where I specifically spoke about rats.

    Whether or not you notice it (and it's true that many animals will try to hide injuries, humans included) doesn't mean there is no modifications to behaviour. E.g. licking, protecting the area (less weight on paw, lifiting it up etc), reacting to the same stimulus more negatively such as not eating or growling etc when being touched.

    You literally said she stopped using it. Aka she felt pain. Ever eaten after a dentist when your mouth is still numb? you will straight up bite off chunks of your lips and keep eating. If there was no pain she would keep trying to use it and probably just be confused when it didn't work. Which btw is how she'll behave if you anaesthetise her!

    Also if you've ever noticed her behaviour after removing say a piece of gravel from between the pads in her feet you'll probably notice despite no damage the first step or two will be tentative. She's anticipating pain, again behaviour modification.

    Plants just don't do anything like this.

  • Do animals have emotions like us?
  • It does though, you will stop walking. Clutch your foot, say ow, look at where you hit the thing, be more careful when walking near there, move the object, pad the object, maybe wear protective covers on your feet, maybe dress a wound if the nailbed was damaged etc. If your toe keeps hurting you will travel to a doctor for assessment, or splint the toe and so on.

    Unless you don't notice, in which case you feel no pain despite the toe signalling furiously.

    Along side this a bunch of cellular processes will happen to repair the damage, but they happen even if you don't notice (distraction/nerve damage, anaesthetic etc) and so we can notice "huh, there are 2 clusters of things happening, one is conditional and one isn't" and that's a clue that there's something more going on than just a body repairing itself.

  • Do animals have emotions like us?
  • You've got to operate on evidence, there's an infinite number of things you can't falsify and you have no criteria for choosing which to believe or not.

    In other animals we observe things consistent with pain such as long term behaviour modification in the absence of a persistent hormone. Things like avoiding places they were injured, becoming more cautious or less curious, even changes that destroy them like starving themselves to death.

    Anyone that says "only humans feel pain" is a chauvinist ignoring stuff like rats giving up the will to live.

    But trees or mosses or whatever do none of this. A tree will keep trying to grow towards a fence that damages branches in a storm, a tree never starves itself to death making thicker bark after teens carve lovehearts into it, a tree doesn't stop reproducing after 3 droughts kill all its children and so on. Leaves might change colour in response to periods of high or low sunlight but these changes are like tanning, they don't modify anything about how the tree trees.

    We can't know is true, but we also can't know I don't have an invisible dragon in my garage. you should definitely not live your life thinking I have an invisible dragon in my garage. Why? you don't have any evidence to suspect it's real that is distinguishable from a random lie. We have no evidence of behaviour in trees indistinguishable from chemical signals we know are below the level of consciousness in ourselves.

  • Do animals have emotions like us?
  • You're conflating very different processes here. While there is the hard problem of consciousness and we can't falsify ideas like panpsychism consider a few things.

    If you amputate my hand and press on it it will emit nervous signals. Does anyone feel pain? If you destroy most of my brain but keep me alive, then stab me almost all the nervous activity and hormones etc associated with injury will happen. Is there any reason to believe there is any pain felt?

    I would say no in both cases, pain is not emitting nervous impulses, or something that precedes releasing endorphins and inflammatory factors etc. Pain cannot even necessarily be reliably correlated with stress markers like heart rate, and in the case of phantom limb syndrome pain can even be associated with a complete lack of signals.

    There are good evolutionary reasons to exhange information and resources, even unwittingly. Apparently some bacteria in my tummy are in conversation with my body constantly but I'm not at all aware or actively participating in that. Maintaing pain only really seems to offer advantage if you can do something about it, while it's possible for things to exist accidentally it's not like grass can move to places without mowers or trees shade themselves. In all animals with nervous systems the nervous systems are the vastly most expensive thing to keep alive. In fact there are a few creatures who when entering an immobile stage of life rapidly digest their own (a good explaination for both tenure and retirees!).

    Plants don't have rapid long distance communication in their bodies, they don't have centralised organs, they don't even have anything approaching the levels of activity we associate with the simplest nervous systems.

    It's probably best to think of grass "screaming" as skin cells "screaming" for resources to make more melanin when exposed to UV. Or lymph nodes "screaming" when releasing hormones to heal a wound and stuff. This is all vastly below the level of consciousness.

    Or whatever, embrace panpsychism, like the invisible dragon in my garage nobody can prove it false /shrug. Animals eat plants though and thermo law 2 is a thing so even panpsychics minimise suffering by being plant based.

  • Old, but we all have to learn these.

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    Things I've learned since going vegan

    • You can slice someone's throat and still love them.
    • The word "need" can also mean "could easily live without but do kinda want".
    • The word "humane" can mean literally anything you want it to.
    • It's ok to call people out for harmful behaviour unless that behaviour involves bacon.
    • Plants definitely feel pain and lawns scream when you mow them.
    • Crop workers are exploited but slaughterhouse workers definitely aren't. No exploitation here, no sir.
    • Meat is the only food that contains protein.
    • "Found the vegan" is still funny and original the millionth time.
    • Before humans came along, cows were just wandering around with massive udders praying for someone to invent industrialised agriculture.
    • Steak is cheaper than beans, rice, pasta, and canned vegetables.
    • While 99% of all meat comes from factory farms, no one eats that meat.
    • Everyone only buys local, organic, humane, Dalai Lama approved meat.
    • Everyone has an uncle who owns a farm straight out of a 1950's Americana magazine
    • Everyone has a degree in nutrition and evolutionary biology.
    • Everyone knows that one guy who went vegan and almost died.
    • Everyone is free to talk about their identity, beliefs and interests without being shamed for them. Unless they're vegan. Vegans can fuck off.
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    Why is it called the skibidi tree?

    Is it a lore reference to a toilet? Hinting at some of the late game of elden ring being shit?

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    More stellar reporting from the abc on 1,4 butanediol smuggling.
    www.abc.net.au Thousands of litres of date rape drug 'bute' found concealed in body oil bottles in Sydney

    The AFP are warning importers of the date rape drug known as 'bute' will face heavy penalties after more than 4,000 litres of the substance have been seized in Sydney since a change in legislation in March made it a border-controlled drug.

    Thousands of litres of date rape drug 'bute' found concealed in body oil bottles in Sydney

    I read this while enjoying a glass of the date rape drug known as Shiraz which some users consume to the point of death.

    You could power a city on my eyerolls. My message to the community is to demand reasonable and measured reporting on drugs, and sensible drug policy with a harm minimisation orientation.

    Or you know, let's get hysterical about people taking a ghb prodrug that's harder to dose and more likely to be contaminated because it's easier to import than GHB. That'll keep the kids safe.

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    David McBride: former army lawyer sentenced to five years for stealing and leaking Afghanistan war documents
    www.theguardian.com David McBride: former army lawyer sentenced to five years for stealing and leaking Afghanistan war documents

    McBride, who had pleaded guilty to stealing commonwealth information and passing it to the ABC, receives non-parole jail term of 27 months

    David McBride: former army lawyer sentenced to five years for stealing and leaking Afghanistan war documents

    Complete bullshit. Regimes that punish whistleblowers harder than war criminals reveal themselves as dreaming of tyranny.

    The entire trial was cooked, and I'm furious :(

    That non parole period is nuts too, pure revenge. What danger does this man represent? If he's out on the streets some war criminals better watch their backs?

    edit: I should add, it's also quite frustrating that at the end of all this top brass has had no light shone on them, which was his initial goal on leaking. He thought the SAS was being investigated overmuch as a distraction from leadership failures. I guess we'll never know. A slap on the wrist for the executioners, no systematic investigation, and an inconvenient man in gaol.

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    So this slightly funny list from the guardian got me thinking: What in your opinion are good books to understand modern China?

    So I came across this: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2024/apr/18/five-of-the-best-books-to-understand-modern-china and the headline piqued my interest but the books all seem of a rather particular slant. I am a fan of reading from a series of broad perspectives when trying to understand huge things and it's obviously a bit farcial to suppose the lives of 1.4 billion people are gripped by terror and pain in a country that somehow still chugs along.

    Since of everywhere on lemmy I think I'm likely to get some pretty interesting recommendations here, if we can do it without igniting the china good/bad flame war what books would you recommend to give insight into "understanding modern china". That is phenomenally broad and vague so I'm keen to see anything from histories to fiction.

    edit: thank you all for your opinions, I will endeavour to check most of them out and communicate my thoughts on them later. I'm especially interested in what the lives of boring arse people are like in different sectors of society (e.g. migrant underclass, party bureaucrate, officer worker, house wife, farmer etc) , if anything like that comes to mind.

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    Police stopped Brad on his morning walk for wearing a hoodie. Ten minutes later, he was dead
    www.abc.net.au CCTV caught Brad's final moments before he was shot after being stopped for wearing a hoodie

    Brad Balzan died a violent death in his own backyard. Some are calling it "the worst outcome imaginable of proactive policing".

    CCTV caught Brad's final moments before he was shot after being stopped for wearing a hoodie

    Alternative title: NSW cops murder a kid because he ran home when 4 people in plain clothes pile out of a car and accost him. For wearing a hoodie.

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    3d printed jig for assembling LED cube layers

    Includes a little jig off the side to bend the leads regularly, and holds the LEDs in consistent orientation using the cathode cutaway on the rim.

    Designed by my lovely wife.

    btw It is food safe to drink coffee next to 3d printed parts nerds ;)

    P.S. this filament is awful, filamentium pla. The worst thing I've used since early reprap days when variability was high.

    Any ideas what's causing that "shadowing" between the holes? those parts printed last I think but at the same speed/ironing pattern etc as the more matte parts between.

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    pretty basic but I made myself a less mess espresso basket prep ring thing.

    It'a detained by magnets so it doesn't get in the basket and interfere with spreading out the grounds. Needs a clean up with a lick of sandpaper, pretty stupid but these things cost like 50 bucks /shrug

    !

    EDIT: appreciate all the concern for my health, it touches dry coffee grounds. I agree that if it got wet there'd be health problems but unless it gets real humid there's just no opportunity for decay. As for random leaching same diff, without heat and wet it's not really a concern.

    That said I probably will seal an improved design, this is just a test piece.

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    Echoing my post on masto: Does asafoetida smell amazing to you?

    Does asafoetida smell amazing to you? and if yes do you consider yourself someone with an accurate sense of smell (e.g. identify if someone needs dental work in a conversation, smell who someone has been hanging out with, identify spices and herbs used in a meal with high accuracy, identify the perfume someone wears etc)

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    I've gone with super terminal heavy setups for years. If I want to dip my toes into a more GUI oriented setup what's your rec?

    I've got a refurbed thinkpad yoga in the mail. It's a stylus oriented laptop so I need to change the software I use to be more clicky.

    For years I've favoured stuff like netctl, xrandr, xbacklight etc etc over GUI alternatives and usually gone for very minimal WM setups (e.g. dwm).

    For obvious reasons this would be actual hell with a stylus in tablet mode, but it's been around 15 years since I last had a clicky linux setup and I'm really lost as to how to set one up on arch. What do you folks recommend for laptops?

    EDIT: update for wayward souls. Went with plasma, less works nicely out of the box but gnome hung occasionally on a 2019 yoga x1. There's a lot about plasma I would say is annoying but configuring it is vastly easier than gnome.

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    Share your warm up and your stretches? This is knowledge I can be trusted with

    Silly title aside what do you do to warm up and if you do any stretching for mobility after a run what are they?

    I confess to being extremely lazy. My idea of a warm up is just running a bit easier than normal and the only stretch I do is foam roll my calves and stretch out the old hams on a wall.

    Every time I look up articles you get insane fitness blogs regurgitating the same 3 page "easy" routine that you absolutely must do all of or you will definitely die.

    So what do actual other human beings do? Come, share your wisdom or commiserate in haphazardness.

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    Australia’s system of indefinite immigration detention to face high court challenge
    www.theguardian.com Australia’s system of indefinite immigration detention to face high court challenge

    Lawyers for stateless Rohingya refugee seek to overturn 20-year-old precedent that allows those who can’t be deported to be kept in detention

    Australia’s system of indefinite immigration detention to face high court challenge

    This should be an interesting case to watch. It seems on it's face something utterly inhumane and so it will be important to know whether it is considered legitimate.

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    Share your techniques for maintaining motivation when recovering from injuries

    I started running about a year ago. No specific goals just for fun, was making good progress till I got up to being able to run about 7 km 5 days a week no problem.

    Unfortunately a series of health problems lead to getting really out of condition and I'm dealing with some knee tendonitis due to irresponsibility when doing strength training.

    Now I'm gasping after 3 km and having to carefully pace myself to avoid aggravating the knee while I build it back up.

    On one hand I know that a lot of the long term adaption isn't totally gone, that I'm not starting from zero. When I started I would throw up after running a block.

    On the other hand it's demotivating as fuck putting in so much effort to hobble through stuff that recently was relaxing.

    I'm obviously not the first person or the last to deal with this so I'm asking if you could share times when you've dealt with recovering and what kept you going.

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    Inconsistent results with auto bed levelling. Creality ender 3 s1.

    See attached photo for the results of the bed levelling test using superslicer's calibration test.

    This is using the uhhh mriscoc firmware after heating to thermal equilibrium, tramming to tolerance, doing a 9x9 mesh which found a high point at the super messed up bottom left corner (higher than tramming result? but slightly further out).

    I have M420 S1 in my custom gcode, and for insanity's sake checked the gcode of the part and it's in the custom block and start block.

    Any ideas what's going on? every other section is okay, although back right is a bit distant.

    EDIT 2023-07-11T08:27(UTC): So after some shenanigans the current findings are summarised as following:

    • Z travel speed during probing needs to be slow
    • multiple probing (3 samples) creates reproducible meshes and tramming wizard results
    • Trying to enable the mesh via G29 A ; Activate UBL \n G29 L0 ; Load mesh in slot 0 \n G29 J ; Correct for skew didn't seem to work. Replacing that whole block with M420 L0 S1 makes the Z axis move during XY translation (from which I infer the mesh is loaded and being used correctly vs my printer is possessed)
    • The above would seem to me to indicate the marlin documentation is wrong? as it suggests using G29 L# and G29 A respectively.

    As of the time of update, that lower right corner is proving troubling, still. I think it's an issue with the location of the probe and interpolation results vs actual geometry of the bed. By that I mean, if we define down on your screen as positive X and right on your screen as positive Y the probe is located at MX, -NY vs the print head, thus the extreme location cannot be sampled. If the bed geometry is not smooth at that extreme then the automated fill in of my 9x9 grid might be wrong. I will attempt manually leveling that section and see if that helps

    EDIT the second:

    I'm going insane. Will take some photos in the morning but mesh values in the left front of the bed are wildly different from actual height.

    Building the mesh with the probe will report a sort of hill in the centre going to low corners, the front left will report something like -0.3mm (although the mesh display only shows -0.2 mm editing the value shows it's lower) but if I go into the edit mode and manually probe that location it'll crash into the bed hard.

    Setting it for light dragging on paper akin to the sort felt in the centre of the bed where values are accurate will have the mesh height at ~0.1 mm. A 0.3 mm difference? what the fuuuuuuuck?

    EDIT: 2023-07-13T08+00:00: I figured it out. Thanks for your advice and patience. I will add pictures of the meshes at various stages to this post at a later date to assist any other wanderer in madness in identifying and solving the same problem.

    In essence neither X or Y were square, the probe being offset in both X and Y created the problem. Because of the gantry construction it would be non trivial to square the XZ gantry to the Y axis so instead I verified that Y was not twisted and instead squared X to the best of my ability and precision tools.

    Then I printed this part: https://www.printables.com/model/255096-sprite-extruder-ender-s1-pluspro-cr-touch-mount-fo to which my eternal gratitude goes out to a Mr S Grindset for providing in order to move the probe to be colinear with the print head in X. Ensuring that any error due to Y not being square is even for the probe and print head.

    Now it is pretty good! Auto leveling works well enough to get "pretty even" layers, certainly none of the nasty ripples and ploughing I was experiencing.

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    naevaTheRat naevaTheRat @lemmy.dbzer0.com

    Despite all my rage I'm still a rat refreshing this page.

    I use arch btw

    Credibly accused of being a fascist, liberal, commie, anarchist, child, boomer, pointlessly pedantic, and db0's sockpuppet.

    Pronouns are she/her.

    Vegan for the iron deficiency.

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