bktheman @ bktheman @awful.systems

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It's a very confusing and poorly worded email. My users were equally confused. Not everyone is techy or even deeply aware of how Plex even works. Nor should they be expected to.

The message was designed to confuse and extract money from people who don't know better. It's trashy and they should be ashamed.

That said, I'm still using Plex for the time being.

Can you elaborate? I've been trying to find a way to expose jf to the Internet safely without a VPN, and I'm getting mixed messages from people.

I just got a cloudfare domain the other day actually.

Yeah, odd response from this community. Entirely unexpected.

I plan on looking into it again, if nothing else than to have a backup when Plex finally does completely crap the bed.

Which I agree, this is pretty close, but I'm not there yet.

I'm glad you posted this because I thought I was alone too, I searched for and didn't find anyone with this problem. Almost made a post here, but decided I didn't want the abuse haha.

That's good to hear. I honestly haven't tried it yet, I need to. The problem is exposing it to the Internet without a VPN.

Clients don't concern me, from what I understand it works on Roku and you can stream from your phone to a Chromecast, that's all my users need.

I refuse to use any TVs built in smart features 🤷‍♂️

Public exposure to the Internet without needing tailscale or a VPN. I keep hearing mixed opinions on whether it's recommended or not.

I'm not afraid of configuring it, reverse proxy and all that. I just want it to be secure, and I keep getting mixed signals.

For now I'll keep dealing with Plex, but eventually I'm sure I'll need to figure out a solution using jellyfin.

Thank you for posting this. I thought it was just me.

In my case, one user actually lost access entirely to my libraries, the updated app was trying to force him to buy a personal pass, even though I have a Plex pass.

I had him reset his app and clear cache, to no avail. I ended up having to REMOVE his access to my libraries, and then reshare them to him, before he could access them again.

He was quite upset at Plex during the entire process.

Then the next day, he got this same email, and was frustrated all over again thinking he was gonna have to fight it again.

Really terrible customer service here, very sloppy. Aside from the fact that this is a greedy cash grab, it's just being done poorly.

Jellyfin still isn't feature packed enough for me to switch to, unfortunately.

For a reverse proxy, would cloudfare be sufficient?

This is what everyone always says, and yeah, for most people this is probably the most secure and easiest option. But for me it's too much hassle for my family, too restrictive, and not at all what I'm looking for.

However in this thread I've learned that JF supports https, so if done carefully and properly, I can expose it to the Internet directly, which is what I plan to do. Eventually. Plex is still easier for now.

Thanks, you and others in this thread are the first people to ever tell me about this.

Everyone is always saying tailscale, but that's too complicated and restrictive for my family.

I'm not afraid of port forwarding and dynamic DNS, I've played with it before. My main concern is just doing it safely, not exposing something to the Internet that wasn't designed to be exposed. Security risk, and all that.

Obviously a VPN is the safest way. But as long as JF is reasonably robust and designed to be exposed, I'm happy with that. I just literally didn't know it was designed that way.

Thanks!

Thanks, you and others in this thread are the first people to ever tell me about this.

Everyone is always saying tailscale, but that's too complicated and restrictive for my family.

I'm not afraid of port forwarding and dynamic DNS, I've played with it before. My main concern is just doing it safely, not exposing something to the Internet that wasn't designed to be exposed. Security risk, and all that.

Obviously a VPN is the safest way. But as long as JF is reasonably robust and designed to be exposed, I'm happy with that. I just literally didn't know it was designed that way.

Thanks!

Thanks, you and others in this thread are the first people to ever tell me about this.

Everyone is always saying tailscale, but that's too complicated and restrictive for my family.

I'm not afraid of port forwarding and dynamic DNS, I've played with it before. My main concern is just doing it safely, not exposing something to the Internet that wasn't designed to be exposed. Security risk, and all that.

Obviously a VPN is the safest way. But as long as JF is reasonably robust and designed to be exposed, I'm happy with that. I just literally didn't know it was designed that way.

Thanks!

The only problem is properly exposing jellyfin to the Internet. How do you do it?

I'm not planning on leaving Plex anytime soon. But I did plan on setting up jellyfin in parallel to play with it and learn about it. But this stopped me in my tracks.

I don't want my family to need to VPN into my network. Plex, for as frustrating as it is in many ways, just works. And it works on so much stuff.

Which thread? I'm casual, I don't have time or energy to keep a good ratio. I seed plenty, but it seems like private trackers, for all their benefits, would also be a chore. I've looked into them before but never got past needing an invite.

At this point in my life I'm not concerned about the highest bitrate. I use yify for all my movies, and 1337x for TV shows, grab them in full seasons as I need them.

I'm open to new ideas, though, if it's not too hard to get started.

You're not alone, I definitely spent the majority of my time on 720p rips. I couldn't tell the difference between them and 1080. Though these days, actually just recently, I've switched over to 1080, and I can tell when it's lower.

But most my collection is still 720 and I feel no need to go back through and update everything. Maybe when I get arr set up I'll let it go through and do it for me 🤷‍♂️

This, works great. Nearly flawless

You set this up in docker? I've been fighting docker all day, finally trying to set up some arr stuff. I'm not convinced that docker is the right way to go.

Love mine, but the motor is a little weak

50TB!

I know many people have much more, but wow. 4k I'm guessing? Or full quality 1080 Blu-ray rips?

My TV is... Inadequate. An old 1080p LCD that won't die. But it's plenty big, and the backlight is even and the blacks are black enough. It's plenty clear.

I've really enjoyed 4k stuff on my buddies TV. But not enough to justify ditching a perfectly good TV, and the costs associated with a proper HDR OLED, and the increase to my current storage solution (8TB) and the time to find and download everything at Max resolution. I download most my stuff at 720p, I don't really notice the difference between the two unless I'm pixel peeping.

Plus my family uses my media server remotely, and my upload is only 14mbps, so I'd need to force transcoding, and I'm not sure my server has enough chooch to do 4 concurrent transcoded streams.

I really should just bite the bullet and start with my storage and get higher bitrate stuff now.. gah.. it's a slippery slope lol, and so far I've been happy with my simple setup..

Sorry for the wall of text, guess I just needed to write this all out 🤷‍♂️

Yeah steam is where it's at. I'm sure it won't last, and they have their own problems. But for now? It really is a service problem with TV and movies.

I can easily buy and own a game from steam, play it on my deck and get updates, no muss no fuss.