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  • So random thought, you now how LW is worried about an seed AI going foom right, how it bootstraps itself into a new AI with better capabilities which bootstraps etc all the way till the singularity.

    Why isn't it happening? Gpt-2 was released 2019, 3 2022, 4 2023, so where is 5 and 6? Where is our double event?

  • LW'er: "sorry can you excuse me for a moment? I'm having a bad day, somebody gave me a stack of papers with a paperclip in it"

    (I do now worry if there are actual LWers who for real gave themselves ptsd like reactions from seeing paperclips. Like the woman who mistook 'free parking' for 'free palestine' a couple of years back).

  • Now im reminded of the guys I met at a student association party (for a student association which had an active boardgaming club) who didn't want to tell me about the boardgame they were developing because I needed to sign an NDA first, and they had no papers with them, and they wanted to see if they could patent the ideas. Such a weird moment to be introduced to people because they are actively trying to develop a board game, and I also liked board games for them to go 'its all a secret'. Can't recall if I laughed in their faces (as well, from what I heard from reading about board game development, NDAs like this were unheard of, same with patents, and nobody is going to steal your idea (and you will not make much money on it)). I didn't even get the genre. (And like I would steal their ideas, I have my own unfinished ideas thank you very much).

  • Yeah that "they can just input bs" has always been the whole issue with those whole logging bit on the blockchain stuff. Esp considering the costs and risk of implementing a thing like this and the low costs of normal existing logging I dont see how this could ever become mainstream viable. (And that is ignoring the ease of use).

  • i love how despite how much people with actual experience try to discredit it, the odea of the idea guy lives on. Esp great if the idea guy is also a "cant tell you my ideas or you might steal them" guy

    E: and of course that guy is some basic anti woke guy. Referencing jimmyconcepts 'hoax'.

  • Damn making honey is metal as fuck. (And I mean that in a omg this is horrible, you could write disturbing songs about it way) CRUSHED FOR YOUNG! MAMMON DEMANDS DISMEMBERMENT! LIVING ON SLOP, HIVE CULLING MANDATORY. Makes a 40k hive city sound nice.

  • Re the “A lot of the early Rationalists" bit. Nice way to not take responsibility, act like you were not one of them and throw them under the bus because "genuinely crazy" like some preexisting condition, and not something your group made worse, and a nice abuse of the general publics bias against "crazy" people. Some real Rationalist dark art shit here.

    There is some dark irony here in that the "we must make sure the AI doesnt turn bad" people cant even stop their own people from turning bad after looking at their own ideas. Wonder if they have already went "musk isnt a real Rationalist" (imho he isnt but for some reason LWers seem to like him) after he turned Grok basically into a neonazi (not sure if it is was reported here but Grok is now doing great replacement shit when asked about Jewish "control of the media").

  • Re being a transhumanists: Well that is why I personally dont like the term tescreal, as I do think there can be good transhumanists out there. The hot swappable furry sex organ transhumanists vs the I just want to code javascript faster transhumanists. (Meant as strawman of both, but Id prefer the first, esp as they are more likely to go the 'it should be available to all of us or none of us' route).

    Personally I dont think I would mind living forever (or untill Im tired of it) given everyone gets the choice we stay healthy and have free stuff for example. But that will not happen under the Muskians/Rationalists/etc. (im remembering the moment I discovered one of the H+ people was spouting anti trans lines for example, they just want to personally live forever and fuck everyone else it seems).

    E: ah they got told to leave.

  • They traded coal interstellarly, which always made me lol. Think a lot of the people who are this hype about the older sf simply have not read them again in ages. As blakestacey says, the golden age is 12.