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  • 4, 5 now are labour holds. So does not show a real change yet.

    11% swing in these seats def indicates a win. Just.

    It will be interesting to see if the exit polls are correct in labour gains having a larger swing.

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  • Only one opposed to the trend. So long while before we can be sure.

    But if it continures. Lab holds having huge reform vote. But Tory loss them being 3rd. It would support most Tories, only voting reform when they know Tories won't win. But hesitating when a reform win is possible. (edit: possible to prevent what they see as a more sane party)

    Be interesting to see if that continues.

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  • Not really a bad thing. Reform plus the Lib Dems attacking fptp. Means both right and right of centre. (Pretty much the only views available under fptp ). Will have strong options for voters to switch vote and split the fptp possibility of a win for them. This may end up the final option that forces PR of some form.

    Honestly, as close as both sides are. It's the first time both the government and the opposition has had parties truly risking a future split in the vote.

  • Final Exit Poll
  • yep looks like the voters did. hard and with a sand paper condom.

  • No, We Haven’t Run Out of Money
  • How much money we have or don't have is not important.

    What matters is how much money voters have been convinced we have. The centre and right have spent decades convincing voters taxing the rich doesn't work.

    Little hope of changing their minds in the 6 weeks of an election campaign. People need to be putting the work in now for 10 years or so in the future. Forcing the centre and right to prove their arguments against progressive taxation.

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  • Only reason I'd be surprised. Elderly voters are more likely to use postal voting than young.

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  • Also a sizable % of voters. Given a 66m population.

    Interesting that privatised Royal Mail is having issues delivering them on time. I'm sure I am just inventing conspiracies here. As I can't see Tories benefitting from it.

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  • The positive news. Voting reform is very unlikely to win more than 7 seats. But will split the right wing vote from Tories. Letting Lib Dems or even Labour win seats from the Tories.

    They are where fptp works for the left for a change.

    While Id def prefer a situation where a seat cannot be taken, with >60% wanting any other MP. Here it helps. While maybe convincing more voters, FPTP is shit.

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  • Honestly the UK political ideals would need to change.

    I personally think fptp has damaged the UKs idea of political compromise. Looking at attitudes to brexit when it was won by people who had doffering ideas of what it ment.

    And the EUs attitude to our red lines eve. Our own parliment could not agree on.

    Our politicians all looked like stupid children.

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  • Turnout.

    Id be interested to hear how busy folks found their polling sration. Compared to past elections.

    Mine is a hostorical tory safe seat. Predicted to go lib dem.

    Turnout at 11am seemed about normal. No real queues 20 or so folks 2 puppies. Past genral elections were about the same. EU ref was notably more people.

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  • Based on current polling. 16% Reform + 19% Tory

    So 36-39% add that some Tories make up the 11% Lib Dem polling.

    Yeah, if Tory voters were united, it would be bloody close polling wise.

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  • Tories turning to reform has a lot to do with the prediction. As that tends to hit Tory/Lib Dem seats hugely. By limiting the Tory vote on the far right. While helping central right Tories voting Lib Dem.

    So def worth voting tactically if you live in a historically Tory safe seat area.

  • Britain will not rejoin EU in my lifetime, says Starmer
  • it’ll at least shift the conversation away from deporting people to Rwanda and into more sane territory

    I agree, although the whole my lifetime is fucking arrogant and anti-democratic considering how close the vote was.

    What worries me more is failing to have any real left of centre opposition.

    This will lead to the right thinking they are safe to head far further right.

    While failing to give the public any hope of real change. So 4 to 5 years from now. What sort of choice will we have. With polling showing Tory and reform with approx 36% between them. And any real left wing opinion being irrelevant in current polling due to 0 main party representation. The centre is moving pretty far right in general.

    But then I said much the same in my late 20s prior to the 97 election. And little has convinced me I was wrong. So with any luck. My health means I won't see the shithole we end up with.

  • Britain will not rejoin EU in my lifetime, says Starmer
  • in my lifetime.

    What a fucking arsehole. I'm 53, so the UK joined with a 74% yes vote. And left again on a fucking close vote. Within my lifetime.

    Based on that history, what the fuck right does anyone have to predict that far in the future. It is just arrogance. And has 0 relation to democracy.

  • New poll by Survation: Labour on course to win 484 seats (a 99% certainty)
  • If you fail to see the point I was making.

    It is because you choose to.

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  • Agreed. Most of us really do not think about this shit as often as we should. I know I am guilty of assuming he when typing. I know because I make an effort not to be. And notice how often I need to correct text. Being older than many developers. I just grew up with the assumptions. So like many my age needed my attention drawn to the societal indoctrination.

    People politely pointing it out is important. As is people volunteering to help correct older documentation.

  • New poll by Survation: Labour on course to win 484 seats (a 99% certainty)
  • Sounds a lot like right wing we arrest rich and poor for sleeping under the bridge crap.

    Back in the 80s when gay men showing affection in public could lead to inciting riot charges. Many anti-gay groups made the same claim that were equal in not being able to kiss other men in public.

    It's a rather pathetic straw man.

  • New poll by Survation: Labour on course to win 484 seats (a 99% certainty)
  • Exactly. Other points worth remembering. Tory voters are more likely to be retired or otherwise wealthy enough to spare time.

    Whereas, labour voters are more likely to have multiple or 0-hour contract jobs. Meaning the press push, this is a forgone conclusion. It is much more likely to reduce Labour turnout than Tory.

    Add younger voters tend to have lower turnout. And the shy Tory history. This may still be a weak labour win, or even a Tory minority win.

    Go vote tomorrow. I'd also suggest vote tactically. If in an area where it's practical. But that is your choice.

    As it is, voting Tory. If that is your wish. Please have fun and get very drunk tonight ;)

  • Exclusive: Voters Want Liz Truss To Be This Election's 'Michael Portillo Moment'
  • I'd place Sunak Johnson and Mogg above her. But she is high up the list.

    I can see Mogg being a huge part of reforming the Tories as more right wing post a lost election. So losing his seat limits any thoughts of leadership.

  • Woman who died at slapping therapy retreat viewed healer as ‘sent by God’, court told
  • Needs to be more media coverage of punishment for people giving medical advice with no qualifications.

    This man was convicted for killing children in AUS. Yet 17 months later, others fell for his crap.

    As a T1d its seems insane to me that any other diabetic would stop insulin. The muscle pain and inability to generate energy from high glucose is bad enough. Honestly, 3 days of slapping will be nothing compared to the pain she would be suffering at this point. Simple fact for those who do not understand the biology. Without insulin, your body is unable to generate any energy to operate your muscles or brain. As such muscles sends desperate signals to your brain to stop movement. At a time when the blood in your limbs organs and muscles is turning to treacle. Causing your joints to have other pain issues. While also harming all other organs. Hence, the term systemic disease. It fucks everything.

    This victim clearly needed more education as to what her body is going through in those times. But this is common around the world. Most T1ds have to demand explanations past "It's a common issue with diabetics". This is often all we hear from to busy doctors. So T1ds not understanding the details of their illness is forgivable.

    But the media really does need to be involved in scaring the shit out of medical quacks making false non evidenced claims against qualified advice. Alternative medicine gets a bad name from shitheads like this. Most practisers, while maybe often little more than placebo or sometimes just less refined herbalism using historical anecdotal support. They do tend to recognise they are at best additional to professional MDs. As such, encourage patients to ensure their treatments do not interfere with RXed solutions.

  • Do not under estimate the Tories

    This is opinion. So read it as such. But consider it please.

    Obviously if you read this based on the title. I assume you oppose the Tories.

    But if you are wondering why labour are so keen to manage expectations. There is a reason.

    Campaign funding wise the Tories are estimated to be 19m ahead of labour. But honestly at the moment they are not spending a huge amount more.

    We know the Tories are skilled at election manipulation. So there is genuine fear that the Tories plan to launch a campaign within the last few days.

    I.E. when there is less time and funding to ensure fact checking is effective.

    They know Starmer is more publicity aware then Corbyn was. He is able to play it in a way that dose not scare traditional Conservative voters.

    They also know thanks to Boris, that the courts are unable to punish them for outright lies during any political campaign. And that Rishi is prepared to lie about and accuse civil servants of lying when challenged.

    As huge as polling is against the Tories. All it would take is some dramatic claim against the party or Starmer. To convince Tory traditional voters to bite their tongue and vote Tory. While convincing left wing voters not to vote or to switch to 3rd party in seats where labour are the 1st or 2nd party.

    The fact we know they have a huge amount of money unspent. Makes it clear they plan to launch something nearer the end of the election. And the only advantage of leaving it so late. Is it will limit the ability of the party to effectively react. Or fact checkers to be able to prove and distribute evidence of lies.

    Please be prepared for this.

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    [Opinion] Starmer can end campaign lies if he wins.

    TLDR at the end I just post how I propose to convince the new parliament.

    If polling is anything near to close. Starmer will enter parlimemt on the 5th with a landslide majority.

    Time for us to remember the court case PM Johnson won for the 350m lie on a bus. The high Court simply stated.

    Parliment has made no law banning lies during a campaign.

    Well we really do have an opportunity to convince Starmer to change that. With Sunak and Co clearly following the last elections lead. Lieing about the civil service backing up their cost estimates.

    It is time parliment tried to build confidence in election claims. This would only be practical when it comes to provable falsehoods of fact. Such as the claims made about Starmers campaign. After they have been informed the civil service did not analyse the data they used.

    Unfortunately forcing a party to follow its manifesto is not really doable. And if parliment made the law. The next parliment would cancel it.

    How to convince Starmer et al

    OK so most will remember back in the coalition. The new government claimed to want to be responsive. So they set up an official, way for the public to request parliment do things. Resulting in parliment responding with crappy excuses every single time 10k signatures. Or a dumb argument in committee at 100k.

    Now consider a new majority land slide parliment. Walking into government on July the 5th. With a social media publicised request to make it illegal for election campaigns, to continue to publish claims known to be false.

    Its a simple law. If your party has received evidence that your clai is false. You must stop using it or face legal punishment.

    So assuming 10k votes. The new government would need to write a response claiming they think lieing is OK.

    Pretty sure the electorate can eviserate them on social media after that. Changing their mind. The new tory opposition leader. (Or Lib Dem maybe?). Would sure as he'll leap on the new government for such a claim.

    But honestly to get the response needed. 100k signatures and the parliment required to have a public committee debate on their right to lie in campaigns.

    No new government with a huge majority is going to be willing to face that.

    Help

    If you have read this far. You will recognise, I am not great at grammar and my wording is not consise. So when it comes to writing the partition on the parliment website. Someone more skilled would be best. Or a discussion here as to the best wording etc.

    Do please if this idea seem worth while. (Let's face it what have we to lose. A few mins a day signing a partition and posting to social media over the election. )

    Then please join a discussion here. To try to push this idea forward over the next month.

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    [OPINION] seems real bad when the civil service calls out tories Lies
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    Seriosly. When you lie in a way that make the civil service look biased. You have losf all respect for the position you are trying to win.

    Can any history geeks think of a time when a UK pilitician has been publically accused of falsely represeting the civil service.

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    Poll predicts Tories lose Opposition Status
    www.independent.co.uk New poll shows Tories heading for election wipeout - with Lib Dems overtaking them

    Redfield and Wilton’s poll of 10,000 voters suggests that the Conservatives will suffer “catastrophic” losses

    New poll shows Tories heading for election wipeout - with Lib Dems overtaking them

    Yesterday I was pointing out how little effort this would take based on polling. And today a new poll puts electoral calculuses tory seat prediction from 66 to 27.

    While it is an early poll.

    Honestly if we saw a higher young voter turn out all votiing tactically. A complete distruction of the Tories party is possible.

    Imagin an opposition party challenging labours view on FPTP. This would be a real once in a life time change to the old aristocratic power structure.

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    Disability @feddit.uk HumanPenguin @feddit.uk
    Uk PIP Changes

    I am posting this here because it is the closest to a UK specific disability community.

    If this is invalid please let me know. While I am not comfortable setting up a UK disability and benefits community alone. I am happy to help run one. It will just need a good few members willing to take an active role.

    This post really is to discuse ( and rant) about the proposed changes to PIP the gov is proposing.

    What really annoys me. Is the government seems to be getting away with pushing false data.

    They keep using the differences in acceptance from 2010 to now.

    With 0 recognition that the 2010 rejection rates were seriously flawed. With many winning appeals after being forced to take the gov to court. Where well over 60% were seen as false rejections.

    Plus multiple reports of suicide due directly to DWP actions. It really bothers me that no media is pointing out this clearly false data.

    While plenty are pointing out the culture war that the tories are clearly trying to start. Some of the charities challenging these distorted claims seems to be needed.

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    Briefcase ish to large laptopish

    This is independent of other projects I have asked for help on. I'm just looking for anything done similar to my plan.

    I am visually impaired. So tend to find most laptop pi projects way to small for common use. But also want an experimental bed for pie projects and experiments in genral.

    So my idea is. I'll get a aluminium briefcase like case. Mount a 18 plus inch portable USB c powered display into the lid. It would also be nice if I could have my 15inch display fold out on a vesa mount. As an extra.

    Inside the case id like to mount a large 18650 or similar lifepo4 batt. I'm thinking 4s 4p with a BMS so I can power usb 100w output with a 12v hub. This should allow out put to multiple monitors and a pie or 2.

    I have a great small wireless keyboard and mouse. That could be popped in and out.

    For the main board currently I'll use my waveshare CM4 poe board b with my 32/8 gb cm4.

    But long term the itx cluster board looks good. When I have a bit more cash.

    The main idea is it will allow me to connect multiple pcie riser cables to the boards via a 4 way wave share pcie switch to start with. Providing space to mount different boards and options as I change projects.

    As folks may have seen from other projects. I move between home and my tiny narrowboat I share with my brother. So this will be more about being able to port multiple pie projects as much as being a usable PC type thing.

    So if anyone has seen or worked on a project that may point to cool ways to mount this. I'd love to see them.

    As I do not have a 3d printer. And cannot really argue the value for as rare as id use it. I am thinking alliminium plate cut and riveted to mount boards etc to the inside. But would love other ideas folks have seen or can come up with.

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    Yet another CM4 question

    Sorry I am expecting no here. But cannot help but hope someone knows a way around the limitation.

    I have a project where I plan to use an nvme on a waveshare mini b io board.

    I am just now learning my way around CM4 pies. So purchased a few parts to experiment before fitting to manage stuff on my boat.

    Unfortunately I did not know enough whan I got the dev cm4. Seeing as the cost difference between Emmc and lite was tiny. I decided there was little to lose with getting a Emmc one. Not knowing the EMMC uses the same pin address as the SD slot on io boards.

    I now know this will mean the SD card port is not available. As I plan to use that to move software updates.

    I was wondering if anyone knows a software way of enabling the internal sd port. IE basically disabling the EMMC.

    If not ill just set up with a USB SD reader so all my cm4 can run identical. But if I can use the one on the board. It will be simpler. Maybe have some option to reboot the boat cm4 in either option with an emergency os on the emmc in the event of a fault.

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    Pie zero reduceced volatility storage?

    Hi again folks.

    I am looking at a small project. Once again for my boat.

    As this one really has very little need to write. Just regular temperature logging with time from multiple sources.

    I am considering setting the pie to store all temporary files in memory. Running the main os from the SD card. And just using an extra USB storage for logging temps etc.

    This should hopefully leave the system needing very little maintainance. With just the USB flash drive prown to wearing out every couple of years.

    I'd be greatfull for any links to folks who have set up similar systems.

    Or other ideas on safe low maintainance ways of running a pi zero os.

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    CM4 mount vibration experience.

    Hi. I am looking at using a cm4 and Waveshare mini io board. For a project I am setting up on my small narrowboat.

    As the tiny antique single cylinder diesel engine. Means the boat suffers from a fair bit of vibration. And this will be the first time I have used a CM4.

    I was hoping some folks could share there experiance/advice on using CM4 boards in similar rough environments.

    I am planning to build a system mounted to din rails with rubber pads to absorb some of the vibration. But any other experience other have can only help.

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    Usefull canal tools.

    This is for new boaters on the UK waterways. As experienced boaters have worked this out for themselves.

    Of course the most usefull tool is your windlass. Without it you really cannot travel far on our canals.

    But the application of a rear ended lock level detection device. Can seriously ease your time amd stress when passing through a lock. Of course not any device will be usable. There is a disturbing fasion for people to own hand held sized portable devices. Such RELLDD are unsuitable for most UK canal lock gates. Industrial sized devices are very much required. Fortunately you will find many stores along the canal. That specialise in providing enhancement solutions to your RELLDD. At very little expense. You may be able to enhance your device over just a few years.

    If this is an unsuitable solution for you. Then please considers the option of other crew members with a more suitable RELLDD. Or you will often find other boaters very willing to help out. By adding their own RELLDD to the lock gate.

    Now if you are single handing. And lacking a suitable device. Then over the last 30 years or so. Many Internet sites have started to help link the owners of such devices together.

    Now I need to urge extream care with this approach. It is first important to remember many owners of such devices are unwilling to allow them to be used on the UK canal system. But more complex. Many with a suitable device whom may be very happy to travel the network with you. Tend to be uncomfortable with the suitability of their device. Due to this they will often also photograph the device using methods that limit its perceived suitability.

    I strongly advice. That if the device seems desirable in other ways. Do not reject the owner purely based on photos indication of its UK lock gate suitability. Ensure you meet the owner and inspect the device. This in genral seems like good advice for any boating related acquisitions.

    Here I feel I should remind members of our community. If you feel the urge to share pictures of your device. In the hope of finding other boaters willing to join you on you travels. Please ensure you check the rules of this community.

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    Rewarding volenteers

    If ever you feel the need to thank rhe vollenteeer crt guys at some of the busy locks. Giving them a packet of biscuits to share with their cuppa. Go's down very well.

    I tend to have loads of foxes jam rings on the boat. Due to T1d. But have heard from others that anything is loved. A d it seems like a very cheap way to reward these people for the time they spend.

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    Please share your time on the canal.

    Not much being posted atm. Given recent news, what little we have is negative.

    I'll share my plans for posting at the end. But would like to request all our members try to post a bit about their use of our network. Pics are great. More so any wildlife. Personally, I love that about our network. But many also love the urban canal landscapes and infrastructure. Also, just a paragraph about issues you may see or fantastic history or questions you may have about our network. While boaters are a huge part of the canal. I really want this to be a group dedicated to all users that love our network.

    The recent news about funding. Makes it clear this network is hugely valuable to the physical and mental health of our nation as a whole. Let's create a friendly environment where we share our feelings together.

    Personally, I am off my boat until the 28th July. My brother, who is a much more skilled photographer than me, Currently has the boat at Ellesmere. He has agreed to send his photos to me once edited. So I will be posting those in aug. I also have acquired a camera that is easy for me to use as I am travelling single-handed. So will be sharing some myself when I take over. (They will be crap compared to my brothers).

    A little about my brother and I so folks know what to expect from me as the admin.

    We are both legally blind. IE, we have some vision, but it is very limited. As we have both now been forced to retire due to our health. We went together and purchased a tiny, narrow boat between us. (Our gran passed and left us 10k, She loved the canals as well, so we feel we are also filling her wishes)

    So we got the 25ft Narrow Boat Alfred Wooley. She is slow with a tiny 12hp single cylinder engine. But we have done her up to the point we are happy travelling the network. But she is not big enough to spend much time with Me, my little dog and Chris and his guide dog together. So during the spring and summer we plan trips around the network, swapping over every few weeks. This is the 2nd year we are doing this. But are planning to continue for as long as our vision allows us. (Our home mooring is in central Oxford. Should anyone want to meet for beer sometime over the winter)

    Chris is a very dedicated photographer. While he has no interest in social media. He is happy to share his pics via myself. So during the year many will be posted here. Myself. I have DSLRs etc. But amateur radio is my main hobby. So the boat is kitted with the option to add lots of antennas when moored (ill share some pics of that). But being less skilled than Chris at the photography. Also having a very old DSLR that is not suitable to use while travelling. I only have an older snapshot camera I use on the boat (canon g10). So will share pics and updates on my trip. But they will b more as I am passing records with Chris providing the good stuff.

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    Every canal enthusiast needs to watch this video

    Interview with CRT boss on funding and future plans.

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    Fund Britain's Waterways
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    Learn more about Fund Britain's Waterways, a coalition of inland waterways organisations working together to campaign against funding cuts.

    Fund Britain's Waterways

    Fund Britain's Waterways is a group of 30+ UK waterways charities unified in an attempt to change the government's mandate to reduce waterways funding for the next 15 years.

    DARFA has recently announced its funding for the canal and river trust. Their statement is available on the link shared.

    But a fair summary is.

    We spent ages evaluating the value for money we get from the UK inland waterway's system. Where we proved, it was a great value for money investment in both national health and our environment. But despite finding no evidence to support the idea. We will carry on with our original plan. Reducing funding by £300m over the next 15 years.

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    IC-7100 mk2

    Noticed a couple of people claim to have received comments from icom.

    Indicating their engineers are working on an update to allow continuation of supply.

    Very happy with mine. Works perfect ad a radio for my small narrowboat.

    Will be interesting to see exactly what parts they are having issues with supply of.

    I also wonder if anyone has ever looked into creating a 3rd party replacement head unit. Seems likely the main control from head to base. Is a version of CI

    If so should be possible to build a simple colour display head. Using something like raspberry pi with a display and encoder dial.

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