Former Proud Boys national leader Enrique Tarrio is scheduled to be sentenced for orchestrating the far-right extremist group’s attack on the U.S. Capitol.
Former Proud Boys national leader Enrique Tarrio is set to be sentenced on Wednesday for a failed plot to keep Donald Trump in power after the Republican lost the 2020 presidential election, capping one of the most significant prosecutions in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.
Prosecutors are seeking 33 years behind bars for Tarrio, who had already been arrested and ordered to leave Washington, D.C., by the time Proud Boys members joined thousands of Trump supporters in storming the Capitol as lawmakers met to certify Democrat Joe Biden’s 2020 electoral victory. But prosecutors say Tarrio organized and led the group’s assault from afar, inspiring followers with his charisma and penchant for propaganda.
Tarrio was a top target in one of the most important Capitol riot cases prosecuted by the Justice Department. He and three lieutenants were convicted in May of charges including seditious conspiracy — a rarely brought Civil War-era offense that the Justice Department levied against members of far-right groups who played a key role in the Jan. 6 attack.
As much as I know the prison system is broken and terrible, this guy deserves what he is getting.
He led an attempt to overthrow the fucking government. Anybody who tries to obfuscate that fact or justify what happened is playing a dangerous game. It was lucky that the violence didn't escalate to an even more serious degree, and turn this nation on its head more than it already has. What they attempted to do has irrevocably damaged American society, and the strength of our democracy.
I'm all for reforming the prison system. However I think it's funny these people are crying about it now that they are subject to it after not caring about others in the prison system.
Prosecutors are seeking 33 years behind bars for Tarrio
Finally some punishments that fit the crime. None of this 6 weeks in prison bullshit like some of these J6 people have been getting. Heck, this traitor deserves a one-way trip in front of a firing squad, but 33 years is fine too.
Now let's see what he actually gets sentences with.
While I believe that Trump knew exactly what he was saying, and I'm sure there were people who knew what they were doing.... The vast majority of those people are just deeply deeply stupid individuals who had no planning whatsoever and got wrapped up with a dumb dumb crowd being riled up by key individuals.
6 weeks in federal prison in addition to having to keep a job as a federal felon isn't exactly a slap on the wrist. Most of what I would call organizers are being tried pretty heavily and those cases take longer against better equipped defendants. I don't think being punitive for the idiots is the best strategy politically either.
I agree. The person yelling "FIRE" in the theater is far more guilty than the idiots stampeding to get out.
Not only were a lot of these people stupid but a lot were likely YUGE losers who finally felt important for the first time in their lives, after Trump blew all that smoke up their asses about being great Patriots.
Won't these people lose gun rights if they are felons? (Not American so not sure)
Have you actually read about what the proud boys did? They didn't just show up to protest. They had weapons and bombs cached outside the city and were fully prepared to take violent action against the Senate on Jan. 6th
Letting these people off easy is how you get fascism. Hitler got a slap on the wrist for the beer hall putsch and it just encouraged him even more. These people are actual traitors who don't deserve your mercy.
Some people think if you hate the same people hard enough, you're on the same side -- and the Proud Boys were happy to have someone brown as their front guy for a while there. "See? It's about values!"
The reality is that plenty of them hate his guts for not being white, I remember these guys split into two factions a while back based ok whether they would accept brown people who hated other brown people hard enough or not.
Racists are generally sheltered, easily lead, uneducated, and guillible.
True racism isnt generally caused by people they know, its by being told that "they" are taking your jobs, stealing your welfare, clogging your hospitals, driving your living costs up, etc, etc.
Its a tool used by the powerful to divert attention. The easily lead take it at face value and hate "them". If they meet a "reformed" person of colour, they see them as "one of the good ones".
While these racists can be outwardly horrible to individuals, they typically dont "hate" the person. They hate "them". The group that doesnt really exist, that they are told are making their own life worse.
A great example is in the Louis Theroux documentary, Louis and the Nazis. He spends time with various white supremacists, and while hanging out with one of the community leaders he meets his TV repair man, a Mexican man that has been servicing his televisions for years who the white supremacist leader considers a friend. One of the leaders side kicks is also fucking a Mexican woman.
The Mexicans that they know are "the good ones". Its the rest of "them" that are the problem in their eyes.
Its an unfortunately common occurence in people that they can be presented with direct evidence contrary to their beliefs, but they are so far gone down their rabbit hole that they consider the evidence as either an outlier or anomoly and not somethign worth analysing in terms of their perception.
Possessing Pot by offense count, min-max sentence, min-max fine
0 days - 1 year, $0-1000
15 days - 2 years, $0-2500
90 days - 3 years, $0-5000
(3 is actually 3+ but that does weird things to the list format.)
Separately, Seditious Conspiracy has a max jail time of 20 years (I couldn't find any cap on its fine), so this means Tarrio is being sentenced for both it and at least 1 other charge (which could be a second count of the same for all I know).
Except pot is likely being charged at the state level and not federal. That'll be different for every state and some could have egregious punishments. Not that that says you're wrong or the other guy is right. Just some context.
Agreed. Prison in the US is tortuous and that is the point. It ruins your prospects when you get out, too. Ensuring crime is more likely. Prison in the US is absolutely pointless in the vast majority of cases to actually decrease crime.
America also has disproportionately long prison sentences for all types of crimes. 33 years ensures this person will be ~72yo when he gets out. So he will immediately be on medicare and likely retired, if possible. At that point, the only reason to not just execute a person is because you could later overturn the conviction.
We keep people in prison so long we're effectively denying them any more life while also spending huge gobs of money to do so AND also denying them any productivity to benefit society. It really is just about the American bloodthirst for revenge.