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Hey, we should all really stop using racist slang to refer to customozation

Meta post I've decided to make. I enjoyed the unixporn subreddit a lot when I used reddit more. I enjoy customizing my linux de as much as the next nerd.

But you definitely shouldn't use racist slang to refer to the process.

To be clear, I didn't know the origin of the term 'ricing' until fairly recently. I was chattimg with my friend and used it to describe my de setup. They informed me that apparently it's from car customization, and is a pejorative against generally asian men who customize their car to look like a racecar.

After learning this I was sad to realize just how engrained it is in linux de customization culture. I personally have stopped using the term, and I would ask everyone here stop as well.

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  • 🥱 read your shift change notes. The line you're taking has already been quashed.

    • Been quashed? You're claiming that users could only semi-organically stumble upon this post, when your continual engagement has kept it at a healthy position in the active feed for the past 2 days. If it weren't for your insistence on being racist none of us would have seen the post at all.

      • Right, I forgot you fools lack reading comprehension skills and the ability to recognize nuance.

        I didn't say there was brigading going on, your comrade brought that up. I simply said just because some users were arriving organically doesn't mean brigading is out of the question. The original point, which continues to be evident, is that there are a ton of hexbear users piling on to anyone that doesn't fall in line with OP. You all seem to conveniently ignore that and straw man into bringing up brigading and hurling insults. You prove my point every time a new one engages. Every. Time.

        The only remotely racist users I've seen here are, unsurprisingly, hexbear users. You're the main ones attempting to nurture a term in a different context to try to get a completely different community to use your preferred racist definition. If you truly were anti-racist I would have expected celebration of the death of a racist term in the car community by way of the unixporn community using it with pride to show off their DEs.

        Instead you cling for dear life onto your racist definition like conservatives do to the fucking electoral college and FPTP. It's really telling.

        Edit: I went ahead and queried the lemmy database from a federated instance I have access to.

        These are the top 3 instances commenting in this specific post at the time of writing (2023-08-25 08:02 UTC):

        instance   | count
-------------+-------
hexbear.net |   205
lemmy.ml    |   106
lemm.ee     |    61

        These are the top 3 instances and their comment counts on any post in lemmy.ml/c/unixporn this month at the time of writing:

        domain    | count
-------------+-------
lemmy.ml    |   210
hexbear.net |   210
lemm.ee     |   100

        You're reading that right, hexbear has a whopping FIVE comments in this community that are not part of this post.

        For the curious, those 5 comments at the time of writing are:

        One of which is especially hilarious as we see a hexbear user that's been railing on people in this post using the very term they're condemning here. Strong convictions? Perhaps bandwagoning the hexbear teet? Who knows. Definitely not suspicious 🙄

        • "I didn't say there's any brigading going on, I just said there's some brigading going on - look, this incredibly popular post has more engagement than any of our other posts!"

          The absolute brazen dishonesty you're engaging in the whole way through this thread is disgusting, and why you get piled on to. The fact is that you're pretending a racist term isn't racist (in the same way as calling stealing "jewing" isn't racist, I suppose (just to make sure you understand, it's very racist)), and your only real argument is "all the hexbears are piling in and being mean :(", not some justification for why taking a racist term for improving the look of a car without improving its performance isn't racist when you apply the exact same term, without altering the concept in any way, to computers.

          • Here, let me help you. My first comment in this post, please show me where I said there's brigading going on. I didn't. And the fact that you read my edit and equated that to me saying there's brigading going on is extremely telling. Again, your comrades brought up brigading, not me.

            You want to talk about brazen dishonesty? Look at the rest of you and yours and how you constantly rephrase what's been said to benefit your own narrative. Disgusting is right. I got piled onto from that very first comment before the edit lol, how revisionist of you to pretend things that came up later in the thread were what caused the thread to happen. And to be clear, no part of what I've said is "hexbears are being mean" or crying about it. That's the straw man each of you have been constructing to try and skirt your own racist tendencies.

            It's interesting that you're equating a word that doesn't refer to a group of people outside of a racist context (rice) with one that explicitly refers to an ethnoreligious group. Do you see how hard you people are working to make the term racist? The argument centers around semantic change and how hexbears are leading the charge to try to proliferate the usage of the term as racist. The concept isn't altered? Please tell me which group is belittled when utilizing it in the unixporn context.

            term for improving the look of a car without improving its performance

            You'll also notice even your own definition independently lacks any racial charge or pejorative meaning whatsoever without you adding it yourself. It's almost as if context matters.

        • I'm not really interested in the debate about brigading, but more on the data.

          Can this just be retrieved via an API?

          • I'm not sure if anyone is exposing an API for this. I'm pulling it directly from the database on an instance I have access to. At first I was worried it wasn't accurate for hexbear because it's a much older instance, but they didn't start federating until very recently so it's close enough.

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