Anti-Piracy Lessons Enter the School Curriculum: Are You a Thief?
With support from the government, anti-piracy group Rights Alliance and publisher Gyldendal will educate young Danes on copyright and piracy.
In the U.S. circa 2016, so many kids were just finding pirate streaming sites for movies and such during class on school computers. I imagine it's similar elsewhere for students who've finished their work and are bored, but boy, now they have the knowledge of how to get countless other types of media for free.
Piracy is a service problem. The goal shouldn't be to indoctrinate our youth to avoid it, it should be to stop releasing subpar, overpriced products.
This just shows they can't win so they have to resort to brainwashing children.
By understanding the motivations of today’s youth, the anti-piracy group hopes to be in a better position to influence their behavior.
I pirate because I don't get paid the full value of my labor. Pay me more and I'll buy more goods and services. It's also more convenient to have everything in one place.
The other annoying thing is that "owning" something is getting to be non-existent anymore. Sure, I can "buy" all the seasons of Supernatural from iTunes. But I only "own" the show for was long as I have my iTunes subscription, and iTunes has the rights to show it, and I have internet service with enough bandwidth to stream it, and I'm not under a bandwidth cap or some other restriction.
Or I can grab a copy and it'll happily live on my hard drive forever, no need to worry about subscriptions or streaming rights or bandwidth limitations.
Tell me: in which of those scenarios do I actually "own" the series?
That's what's messed up about data, is technically the answer to your question is neither! What happens to your ownership of those downloads when your hard drive with no backup does? In that sense, a license tied to should be the safest method, but it's far from it thanks to our current practices.
But I agree with you of course, our control of our files on our hard drives indicate that we have more ownership over them.
Personally, the one thing the U.S. somewhat has right so far is we are somewhat legally allowed to format shift (within reason, stupidly but alas). Currently I can purchase any Nintendo game, decide I do not want to play it on any Nintendo console and it's within my rights to do everything short of redistribution to play that software on my PC.
Someone the other day asked if it's "pirating" to acquire a licensed title they purchased on Vudu. In my opinion, no because it's just format shifting - now, the T.O.S. may say otherwise but T.O.S. also isn't law so then it's a different issue. Vudu can say that you are only allowed to play your purchases through their website that harvests your data, which you signed when you created your account.
Still, fuck that noise. If I am purchasing something that means I expect to be able to use it no matter the surrounding circumstances. That means if my Internet is offline I can still view my content. That means if Vudu kicks the bucket I am unaffected.
Until services start giving me this option, I will continue to format shift my content. I store things for posterity and then watch on the service to support them. I want more super hero stories, so I will watch on HBO and D+. I want more IASIP, so I will watch on Hulu. But you damn better be sure I have them backed up for myself because I'm not paying $x/month to watch these forever.
Whether or not its within my rights to format shift this way I don't really care, I am only format shifting because history has shown we cannot trust media to stay online and unedited.
Example: currently made bluray/DVDs of IASIP also remove episodes. Not for me.
AND offer good stuff! AND make it actually convenient and worth the money. A single streaming service at $15 a month, no more, that has all the "exclusives", be it Stranger Things, The Mandalorian, or Rings of Power (okay, maybe not that last piece of garbage). Then I would consider paying, and only if it is truly more convenient and offers better quality with less buffering than pirate streaming. Until then, it's a pirate's life for me.
The streaming sites already sell my data anytime I click a button on their website, you don't get my money too.
Exactly. I've only ever pirated things I couldn't afford, and even then I kept a running list of the good ones in the hopes that one day I could pay them legitimately. When I can afford to buy them fairly, I don't pirate.
I was a thief when I was starving and I'm a damn thief now.
That's awesome news. Teaching them about anti-piracy will lead them to piracy and make sure that piracy will remain for future generations.
You mean I can get all this stuff for free and all you can do to stop me is try to scare high schoolers?
They really didn't think it through.
I would, in fact, download a car
But would you decapitate a policeman, steal his helmet, shit into it and send it to his widow? That's the real question.
Also yes
I confess I have not considered doing that, I have only dabbled in online piracy.
Well, let's see... At my school, smoking was bad. I started smoking. My school taught us that drinking alcohol was very bad. I started drinking with my friends. We learned at school that the USSR was going to attack us with nukes at any moment. So I started doing an annoying impersonation of Boris and Natascha every time we had a "hide under your desk drill" that was quite entertaining. We were warned in social studies class about the dangers of using fireworks and cherry bombs. My friends and I were on the constant hunt of old cherry bombs. Ronald Reagan's administration started a physical fitness program that gave awards to kids that passed a certain test in gym glass. A lot of us didn't try hard on purpose because it looked silly and many of us, to our shock, still won the award because it was too easy. So, perhaps the schools are creating a whole new generation of super pirates. Some of those kids probably don't even know what pirating is. They'll find out now. And don't forget, boys and girls, ketchup is a vegetable. If ketchup is a vegetable, relish is, too. So make sure you eat up all your relish we give you at lunch time, with some ketchup on top.
"Smoking is bad, m'kay? You shouldn't smoke. And alcohol...well, drinking alcohol is very bad, m'kay?"
"You can do it, it's all up to you" LOL
”Are you a thief?”
Yes.I'm sure this shit would've gone over well with teenage me who downloaded all his games and music using P2P software.
I would love to see what actual academics in this field have to say about course material for children that equates copyright infringement with theft. I imagine it wouldn't be good.
Having a few comments on record about this issue might help steer schools away from adopting it.
Plus by "theft" they mean not paying a subscription to use what you already bought.
Yeah this is a definition of "theft" that doesn't really work at all with the commonly used one.
Like, if you download a torrent, it was uploaded by someone else, willingly. If they bought a DVD and handed it to a friend, that friend wouldn't be stealing the DVD. But now, if they upload the file to the internet for other people to watch, this class is calling that theft.
Its the kind of "theft" that leaves no victims. The alleged "victim" isn't the person from whom the content was downloaded, no, it's the third party who originally sold that person the product in the first place.
The whole concept isn't logically consistent, but the corporations wrote the laws and get to decide how they are enforced and what they mean so it doesn't matter that the law makes no sense and is punishing people for "crimes" that are, at their very core, victimless.
So you mean there are all these movies, media, software that I can get for free, when I'm too broke to purchase it or subscribe to it and my parents wont buy it?
It's like DARE, only that the drugs are actually free this time.
Its takes Time to Pirate but in todays time 1 Hour Work for Cracked Version of a Subscribtion based Programm is financially viable.
Software is to overpriced if they have a Monopoly in professional space.
McGruffy the Anti-Piracy Crime dog asks you a question, “You wouldn’t download a car, would you?”.
This will turn out just as well as the DARE program did, it will only inspire kids into researching more about pirating. As they say, there is no such thing as bad publicity.
Shhh let boomers do another one
Wow, openly letting corpos propogandize children.
But here's the thing:
It is illegal and unethical!
We should stop pretending otherwise.
At the same time, what is also unethical is publishers, record labels, exploiting people!
We should have seminars and more talking about copyright, correct licensing, enforcement and copyleft concepts, to ensure they don't get cheated by such entities in the future
Note: I pirate too
Intellectual property is theft
If I was ever a parent of someone being taught anti-piracy lessons in school, I'd have to show him the error of the lessons by showing him the money I'd be saving by pirating and telling him that the money I don't spend on large companies will in fact not kill them. Gotta set a good example.
The last sentence suggests that, in some cases, pirates can get content sooner than their paying counterparts. This availability issue is often seen as a main driver of piracy. While improvements can be made on the supply side, the course urges teens to postpone their needs instead.
Really? Who would've guessed that piracy is a service problem? How about you improve your shit so people don't feel inclined to pirate it. Who's gonna pay for a shittier experience?
I'm sure this will about as effective as D. A. R. E. in American schools and keeping people off drugs
Hello, kids! Pirates are very bad! Never use qBittorent to download copyrighted material, and certainly do NOT connect it to a VPN to avoid getting caught. Additionally, you should also NEVER download illegal material via an https connection because it is fully encrypted and you won't get caught!
Are you a thief?
I think that when they define "thief" as someone who will watch a TV show on Dailymotion when there's no other way to get it, they're going to be surprised how many people (especially schoolkids) are willing to say "Yes, I'm a thief."
The record and movie industry must be paying out of their asses to have this shit taught in schools.
Let's teach our kids the importance of making billionaires richer and not actual important stuff like checking facts or making a well informed decision when voting.
Absolute dystopian bullshit.
Perhaps there's a danger that, by normalising self-identification as a thief, campaigns like this might have unanticipated societal results.
I'd hate to see shoplifting/burglary/mugging stats climbing in a few years time.
If by "thief" you mean someone that copies information, then yes I am.
I hope the discussions immediately turn to better questions like “what does it mean to own an idea or a blueprint or a sound.”
Stop all the downloadin’
help computer
I mean they’d already told us it’s like stealing a car, I thought we’d accepted that and moved on (with all our free cars).
We can teach them about how once-upon-a-time common sense copyright laws got perverted by the mouse so badly.
I tell kids these days they are totally in one of those YAF novels where the teachers and ministers and testers (and even parents) are all in on the plot to force you through a doughboy program that turns you into an interchangeable, disposable, replaceable soldier or laborer to be exploited and discarded in some billionaire's vanity project, all the while the world is covered in plastic residue and is liberally burning.
IP maximalist indoctrination feels entirely on par, especially considering how disengagement is a far greater threat to media industries than piracy.
Incidentally, IP infringement, including copyright infringement is never theft. Cheating creators and developers of a fair share of the profits, however, is theft.
Leave it to Denmark to be the lamest European country. Embarrassing.
I want gonna pirate but now that this class has shown me how shotedoa companies are, and well, now that it has given me all these ideas.on how to do this, Thanks! Ill be a pirate too!
but you wouldn't download a car
Hell yeah, I would! I still think this is such a stupid argument.
it's less of an argument more of an meme. I literally found that commercial due to a meme. XD. Internet is so fun.
Surely this will have better results than the "War on Drugs".
Surely.