Egg Rule

Who names their chicken Bessie? Everyone knows Bessie is a cow's name.
- You know that, I know that, but I don't think the chicken will question it.
- Henrietta is right there
- Cow eggs are much tastier than chicken eggs anyways.
  
  I believe the proper term for cow eggs is "prairie oysters"..
  
  Just don't mess with a chicken cow. Those things are dangerous!
- What if ... the chicken was adopted by a cow?
  
  And what if they were both brown?
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Takes all of 5 minutes to start a car and drive a mile and back. Nobody walks into a Costco for just eggs or brings the entire family.
I get that you all hate cars but when you make up fantasy stories like this you just harden mind of those you must convince.
- There's no reason you should need to drive for that kind of stuff. Sure, it takes 5 minutes, but it's worse for your health, the environment, your wallet, and your morale.
  
  I never said you should. Only that the above in no way describes the majority experience. It's really not that stressful in the least bit. It's a 10 minute experience with an extra wide parking spot for your f150 at one of the dozens of choices you'll have to grab your eggs.
  I am particularly lucky in that I could go to Wegmans or one of several farms within that 10 minute time frame.
  
  Sure, and a suburbanite could bike 10-15 minutes there instead of driving. This isn't really a problem with suburbs. Grocery stores are incredibly common there, probably moreso than urban areas.
- Drive, a mile? To a whole hypermarket for eggs? I'd just walk down the 95 meters to the grocery store here to get those missing eggs
  
  Okay, that's still a similar effort. And I don't disagree the preferred approach. The above is absurd though. If anything it describes a more rural experience and still quite exaggerated IMO.
  The above is fantasy circle jerk material. Meme better and have a basis of truth. Those are the best memes.
- Yeah I agree that car dependent suburbs are a problem and car brainedness is an issue in North America, but these fake stories are kind of laughable.
  Ive lived in suburbs and cities all over NY state and this story is funny. I'd probably be able to get to like 3 or 4 regional groceries (not cosco) in 5-10 minutes or to a gas station with good prices on eggs and milk in 2-5 minutes. Ive been to orlando so I know the OP isnt entirely untrue, but Ive lived in plenty of places where I'd be there and back again before the city guy gets to the bottom of the elevator/stairs. Also the corner bodega is almost definitely going to be more expensive.
  Again I agree car dependency is bad, but this whole thing is silly.

Suburbanite in a proper suburb: "Come child, walk with me to the corner store to pick up some eggs."
- I see that as the european version.
  
  I was debating with myself if I should say that. But I thought I shouldn't exclude third world countries.
  
  Or california, I've always lived near a corner store or next to a neighbor with chickens
- The distinction here is not "suburb and non-suburb", it's "car-dependent suburb and non-car-dependent suburb" the large large majority are the former.
  https://youtu.be/MWsGBRdK2N0?si=L7Jz-SvZS_xkahyG
  
  This was definitely something I didn't realize was a thing until I moved into a far more non-car dependent suburb. I grew up in suburban sprawl so bad it would literally take you half an hour to foot just to leave the neighborhood. It's not nearly as good as some of the places I've stayed in Europe, but it was eye opening to say the least.
  
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  You should try an English suburb. The one I used to be in had a couple doctor's surgeries and everything. On a main road that leads into the city centre too.
  The next one had a whole shopping centre just to itself.
- Stay close child, there is no sidewalk and car traffic is moving at 35mph
- I'm in a rural town in the USA and I have all these options available. 5 minutes away from grocery stores and restaurants, fresh produce and eggs growing in my own backyard. Room for my kids and pets to roam and no HOA and even low amounts of traffic to deal with.
- My suburb is within walking distance of a big grocery store. I have a wagon I take with me for big orders. Sometimes I see a bunny.
- We don't get many of those in these parts 😞
- And that's the last anyone ever saw of them.
- streetcar suburb: "Come child, let us take the tram to the store and buy some eggs"
  
  In a proper streetcar suburb there should be a supermarket at the tram stop. Also daycare and small primary school, a hair stylist, a GP office, and a restaurant/takeout. Parcel pickup. You only take the tram if you need to go somewhere that has a larger catchment area than a tram stop and especially the supermarket and takeout should be directly at the tram stop so that commuters can grab something on their way home, the rest can be a bit more distributed. One tram stop might have a clothing store, another a shoe store.
  Have plenty of bike parking that doubles the radius for the catchment area. housing density should gradually fall off from the tram stop outwards, you can e.g. have a couple of 8-storey blocks around the tram stops with a quasi-urban feel surrounded by 3-5 storeys interspersed with football pitches and greenery and playgrounds, then terraced homes, then finally single-family homes. As to street design: Plenty of cul-de-sacs and traffic calming, make sure that the cul-de-sacs are only for cars, bikes can continue on (you don't need separate bike infrastructure in traffic-calmed areas), also plenty of small paths cutting through everything so kids can visit friends living away 100m without you having to get on a highway first.

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Was not expecting something about literal eggs.
- Same!

Suburbs should not exist. I get Urban, i get rural, but there is absolutely nothing justifying suburban.
- When rural community populations increase, should we advocate for euthanasia or forced relocation?
  
  That's not how suburbs happen. That's how small towns happen. Not the same thing. Small towns can be cool.
- Living within 30 minutes of my job in the city costs $3,000/month in rent for a 800sf apartment. Living within walking distance would cost $4,000 if I could even find anything to rent.
  Living an hour away costs $750/month in rent for a 1200sf trailer. My car note is $450/month and I spend about $300/month on gasoline on average. All in my rent, vehicle, and gas is half the cost of just the rent in the city.
  Yeah - there's an extra hour lost every day to the drive, but the savings comes out to around $75/hr for that commute. And I have the freedom to travel anywhere I want with my vehicle on top of that.
  So yeah, I live suburban and fuck anyone who criticizes me for making that sensible economic decision.
  
  I don't criticize you at all.
  But that is a urban planning problem. Because they didn't build enough housing and public transportation.
  
  Nobody's saying 'fuck you' for being forced into suburbs. Were saying 'fuck you' to the people who built suburbs instead of high density housing and made housing near your job unaffordable.
  And the people who genuinely had the choice (I might argue you didn't) and chose to pay extra for suburb.
  
  I did the same math and my results came out the opposite way - in a much cheaper country however. I had a rent free situation over an hour away, but ended up renting an apartment near work. My time alone was worth it, being able to pay the month's rent using one week's commute time for freelancing after work. And the monthly fuel cost itself would've been 2/3 of my month's rent.
  Everyone's circumstances are different. I made what I believe was the most sensible economic decision - paying to get out of commuting. For you, the opposite was sensible, commuting to reduce rent. Can't really judge you for doing what's best for your wallet in these tough times we're living.
- Sure, there are inconveniences with living in the suburbs, but there are some positives. A dollar typically goes further than in the city, meaning more space for gardening, hobbies, kids, etc. You get to have neighbors without literally living on top of eachother. Usually more quiet then urban settings,etc.
  
  You don't have neighbors though. Not in american suburbs at least. Not in any good way.
- I mean if you get urban and rural, what's there not to get about the suburbs? It's the best and worst of both. More open lands and less congestion but also rush hour sucks and people suck at driving. It's far to go get something, but car rides with buddies is its own fun.
  
  It's not the best of both though, it just the worst of both.
  The best of both are small towns along railways, with a dense core with some amenities surrounded by decreasing density until it quickly becomes pure countryside, and thanks to the station it's easy to get to and from the big city.
  And if you only want rural surroundings you can have train halts basically in the middle of nowhere, there's a couple like that in my region and it's absolutely delightful.
  
  Not the best. The best of rural is nature wildness and independence. The ability to wander off into your backyard and shoot something and not get an eyebrow raised. The ability to pick a direction, and start walking, and not turn around until your water gets low, then go home, and not meet another person unless you choose to. The option to just dig a big ass hole or marvel at the intricacy of the ecology. Maybe have a few dozen semi feral cats, so nobody xan quite say you are ir arent the creepy cat lady. The best of rural is room to experiment and play, to be entirely food independent, etc. And oh my god it can get so quiet! Its nice. Peaceful, if a little rough. And if something goes horribly globally wrong? Might not even be your problem.
  Suburbs have... A little privacy indoors, I guess? Room for a small garden, if your house is old, maybe some fruit trees? A garage to play with if you don't drive, which is a major sacrifice?
  The best of urban us art culture and people at your fingertips, connectedness and depth. Walking two blocks into an entirely different world, hopping on the train/bus to a dozen art museums and twice as many different cuisines and so many options. Knowing that there are friends for you nearby, if you just find them. Enemies too, probably. Its collaboration and history and the intense humanness of the designed world around you, and oh my god the architecture. At its best, which I admit is rare, its the very very almost imperceptibly low grade version of the thrill of collaboration all the time. And if something goes horribly globally wrong, at least you know youre not alone. Its pretty cool. I'm a fan.
  Suburbs have none of this. They pretend at the restaurants, but they're all chain shit, homogenized to pointlessness.
  Suburbs are garbage. Youre as dependent on long ass supply chains as an urban core, but you're all tiny little ratter dogs pretending to be wolves on the tundra, so you don't acknowledge or embrace it. You get all the isolation with none of the solitude. It takes almost as long to get anywhere, but you can't just chill on your farm or go forage in the woods, so you need to go.
  Suburbs ate garbage poison and ecologically unsustainable. One can argue modern cities are unsustainable too, but there's room for doubt on that one; there are economies of scale to take advantage of.
- Anything with the prefix SUB is garbage except subtitles or submarines.
  
  Or...you know... rawr
- I like suburbs because it's relatively calm, I can build a workshop in my garage, and there's still pretty good amenities. And it's significantly cheaper than the city.

USA moment in the middle

I've been an urban pedestrian/cyclist all my life. Unfortunately I chose a career path that means I now have to work far from a city. I just failed my driving test. I don't even want to drive. I fucking hate this so much.

What if I'm a rural non-farmer?
- Then you will die, eventually
- Trade with your neighbors.
- You don't have to be a farmer to have chickens. Get chickens

me, being broke/cheap/lazy: repeats recipe search adding keyword "eggless"
- In baking psyllium husks can be used as replacement is what I have heard.
  
  Yes, have used psyllium, flax seeds, and chia seeds to varying degrees of success. Xanthan gum never hurts either
  
  Aquafaba. Can be bought readymade but is also a by-product of cooking dried chickpeas. After soaking chickpeas in water for a night discard the soaking water. Bring fresh water to boil and cook the chickpeas for 1/2 an hour or so. Collect the cooking water. You can even also freeze it for later use. It's important to bring it to room temperature before using it in baking. Can bring a good amount of fluffyness to your doughs.
  
  in what universe is psyllium husk cheaper than eggs? This reads like suggesting wagyu as a replacement for pork

...do you know how crowded Costco is on Sundays.
As a German: I hate you.
- Why? Cause shops are open on sunday? Having no workers rights makes that a lot easier
  
  Shops closing on Sundays in Germany is no workers rights issue. No one is asking workers to work 7 days a week.
  Germany as plenty of students, for example, who'd love to have a job on the weekend because they have the freedom to choose a bit better when they work and when not.
  The reason Sunday to this day is still a day when almost all shops have to close is mostly religious. There are restaurants and some other shops that are allowed to stay open and most of them choose either a different rest day or make sure that they have someone on any of those days. One workday on a Sunday is plenty to fill out a typical untaxed low payment job that are very useful to students and others looking to just get a bit of an income.
  Actual workers rights aren't telling people that they can never work on Sundays, they're guaranteeing people that they will never need to work too much.
  
  Why? Cause shops are open on sunday? Having no workers rights makes that a lot easier
  Yes. Shops being closed on Sundays is a major PITA. I have 2 days off a week. So I have to buy groceries in overcrowded shops in the evening or in overcrowded shops on Saturdays. Or I drive across the border and buy in Luxemburg, on Sundays. So the VAT I am creating stays in another country. Which is just plain stupid.
  Also: workers' rights and shops being open on Sundays aren't mutually exclusive.
- Ray of hope: many if not most places of business in the US were closed Sundays through the 60's.
  Then religious influence waned, and capitalism and consumer influence grew and businesses listened.

your chicken hasn't laid an egg? go ask your neighbor! They'll probably have some.

I live in suburbia in the US and I can walk to 3 different grocery stores from my house. If I go to the warehouse store, I will drive. Between telework, walking, and avoiding unnecessary trips to various places, I try to drive less than 1 mile per day.
Density kinda sucks to live in, but we can all make more effort to waste less energy.
- I'm in the same boat, I have two grocery stores, three gas stations, a bank, several fast food/take out restaurants, a Home Depot, a pharmacy, and several walking trails, all within about a 10-15 minute walk from my house. Also live in suburbia, and would like to get a bike this summer to start cutting out driving.
  Can't eliminate most of my driving though, I work about 30 minutes from home for a general contractor, and public transport would require me to leave my dog alone for over 12 hours a day, which just isn't an option.
- If you drive less than 1 mile per day it sounds like you shouldn't have to drive at all. It's walking distance - is your destination not reachable on foot?
  
  Its an average. Some days I don't drive at all. Some days I have to bring a family member several miles to an appointment, or get something bulky from a store that I can't feasibly move without a vehicle.

Blood is a good replacement for eggs in recipe. Use like 4 tablespoons per egg you'd have used in your recipe.
- Instructions unclear: I grabbed 4 tablespoons like you said but it won't stop. Oh God it's everywhere, and it hurts so bad. Halp.
  
  There's a simple solution. If the recipe calls for n eggs and you're replacing each egg with 60mL of blood but instead have M mL of blood, make M/(60*N) recipes.
  Eg, recipe calls for 2 eggs and you've bled 1.5 L of blood, first do the difficult conversion from L to mL (my witch doctor tells me it's 1500 mL). Now, use the formula: 1500 / (60*2), which simplifies to 25 / 2 or 12.5.
  You just need to make 12.5 of your recipe. Just multiply each of the ingredients by 12.5 and you'll be good. Oh and you'll need to adjust cooking time, too, though maybe keep a fire extinguisher handy.
- Didn't have eggs but had BLOOD handy...
  Hmm something you'd like to tell us?
  
  Are you saying you don't have blood??

Suburbanite should ideally go to their backyard garden/ chicken coop
- And then the HOA puts a lien on your home for refusing to get rid of your chickens.
  
  Death to HOAs.
  I still rent, unfortunately, (southern California) but at least my neighborhood doesn’t have an HOA. Those suburban sprawl super sterile neighborhoods like I grew up in in another state are just not at all attractive to live in.
  I have a pretty large garden and sometime this year will have a chicken coop, as it’s allowed here as long as no roosters. Also just bought a greenhouse kit. Eating your own food is incredible.
  !gardening@lemmy.world !balconygardening@slrpnk.net !backyardchickens@lemmy.ca !greenhouse_growers@lemmy.world

In Europe at least it is super hard to afford rent inside the centre of a big city. But yeah being a “walking pedestrian” is soooo cool.
And you can actually do it in the urban suburbs :) but in Paris for example, the cost of living is so high in the suburbs and the center.
- In China it’s easy to afford rent in most of the cities on a full time minimum wage job, and the cities are extremely walkable. My wife lives in a 18 story building, and immediately outside of her development are at least 6 supermarkets, 20 restaurants and countless bus stations and subway stations. Sounds like it’s more of a problem with the economic system than the city itself.
  
  If it weren’t for authoritarianism, pollutions and terrible cyberpunk stuff + human's right violation I think I’d love to live in China lol
  
  What boggles my mind here, in my province, is that a lot of new dense condos/apartments are built without any walkable services. It is mind boggling that it still happens.
  Nothing worse than having to take your car to do small errands.
- Europe's city centers are friggin expensive, if you know what I'm talking about you know. The suburbs are usually fine, also some of the best paces ever are between the suburbs and the center. Locals in the old town will make you pay for the oxygen they have in
- I think I only ever lived in the real "center" of a city once when I was crashing at a friends place while looking for an apartment.
  All of my other places have been further out in neighborhoods outside of the center but there were still shops everywhere. Single use zoning and the tendency to obsess over shitty copypaste single family homes is the real culprit in the US.

Who can even afford living in a city or on the country side? City is too expensive, and country side is cheap but there are no jobs. If you wanna have some kind of a decent-sized place for a family with kids, suburbia is a must unless you are somehow rich. Or happen to have a job that exists in the country side.
- Only because the zoning laws suck and you have a missing middle.
- Here in sweden you can find municipal housing apartments for 400 bucks per month literally right in the middle of downtown, in smaller cites.
  The wonders of actually building enough housing and not having it all be for profit.

I guess if you live on a farm or walk to the grocery store, you don't have an internal monologue?
- The suburbanite's monologue definitely isn't internal.
  
  Yeah ive heard that (the speech in OP) so many times.

you need eggs for dinner
Do you, though? I've swapped which nights I'm making which dinners so I can pick up missing ingredients on a day I'm going out anyway.
- Yes in this case you do. Did you read the "meme"?

My suburb doesn't allow chickens as they're livestock, but it does allow egg-laying ducks because those are apparently pets.
- Ducks are better anyways, they don't tend to eat the vegetables in your garden and aren't raging psychopaths.
  Also capable of being severely cute.

I'm allergic to eggs all of a sudden, so I use a substitute.
- I've learned in the comments that blood is a good one
  
  or just bean water afaik

All the corner stores in Sydney have been turned into homes.

Yes. I'd like to pay 50quid for some eggs please, Mr Cornershopman. 😂
- You don't notice the increased cost if you have to pay micro transactions to go anywhere.
  
  TBH its a 15 minute walk to the main Lidl, or a 4 minute one the other way to the nearest corner shop down here. Cant do a full shop on foot (I could steal the trolley for a bit, LOL) but eggs is doable here.

Imagine having so much time to complain.

Shit, I grew up in the suburbs and it was pretty much the same as the urbanite. Except "corner store" was "egg ranch" and you had to walk out of town to get there.

Minivan? Try GMC Suburban.

is there a r/eggsfordinner on lemmy ?