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Lured with promise of Russian bride & job, 2 tortured for refusing to join army | Times of India

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Lured with promise of Russian bride & job, 2 tortured for refusing to join army | Chandigarh News - Times of India

"No bobs or vagene for you. But avoid the army and you'll face torture" perfectly sums up the state of orcland these days.

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Pretty rough, from what I understand:
Promised jobs in Germany
sent to Bangkok instead
Taken to Belarus
Taken across border into Russia, kept at camps.
Once in Russia, they were told to join the Russian Army. To motivate them, they were:
Offered Russian work visas, brides, and passports
Denied food and water when they refused.
Burned with heated wood and matchsticks, cut with knives, and other torture methods
Threated with knives and guns
Finally arrested for illegally entering the Russia.
I've heard other reports of people from India getting forced into fighting for Russia after fraudulent job offers, so it seems like this is becoming fairly widespread.
- Thanks for this summary that's a lot better than the title which implies they went to Russia voluntarily to "get wives".
Kidnapping foreigners to fight in their genocidal war is a new low for Russians, but it's not like I'm surprised.
And no, shit like this wouldn't be fixed by replacing Putin – he's not the cause of everything that's wrong with Russia, he's a symptom.
- It's the Russia Putin has created.
  
  They have a centuries-long history of extremely brutal and downright psychopathic rule. You really need to read up on Russian history if you think that Putin is the reason things are the way they are.
  edit: just ran into this relevant article: https://thehill.com/opinion/international/4560963-is-the-problem-putins-russia-or-mother-russia/
  Analysts of Russia differ about many things, but the most important difference concerns their interpretation of the roots of Russia’s ongoing aggression. One side argues that Russian history and political culture are to blame — or, to put it more simply, uniquely Russian characteristics are the cause of Russian aggression. The other side argues that the causes are not uniquely Russian, but typical of the behavior of certain kinds of states, regimes, societies and leaders.
  Unsurprisingly, historians of Russia and Ukraine tend to fall into the first camp
- It is really an ongoing low. There have been reports of this with nepalese "joining" the Russian military for a year now. Some may have been voluntary but many took jobs as private support staff only to be sent to the front.
  
  Yeah, they've been kidnapping Indians too and literally torturing them if they refuse to join the army.
  Wonderful culture, such nice people.
- Technically he was the cause. Now his "mandate" has advanced to include every rich asshole Russia has tho, so that's the problem now.
  
  They've been like this for centuries now; the Russian Empire was already pretty damn fucked up.
  Putin is not the cause.

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