How Do You Possibly Use These Forums For Discussion When
How Do You Possibly Use These Forums For Discussion When
You can't even speak frankly here. I came to Lemmy because I was tired of being censored by Reddit, but it seems like this place is just as restrictive on speech as Reddit was.
People, if we are going to talk about systemic change for a better world, violence has to be a tool in the toolbox.
Locking this for similar reasons as I did another recent post, except this one is explicitly encouraging violent action. Further, MasterBlaster420, you seem unable to have this discussion without resorting to insulting people left and right.
See the following:
With this in mind, it would probably be wiser to permanently ban you from this community, but instead I'm giving a temporary ban. I'd encourage you to reflect on how you approach discussing this subject. Rather than suggesting general violence for enacting change, read further on the histories relating to the subject and really engage with them.
Recognize why there's an aversion to violence, who takes advantage of it to subvert its aims, and whether it may be better to help and organize those that align with you, than repel them into the arms of those you oppose.
Talk about violence on a social media platform is a legal liability. Who should take that risk on? Corporations? Random private citizens who happen to run an instance of lemmy?
If you want to talk about violence so badly, you will have to either find a platform that will take that risk on, or take the risk onto yourself.
People advocating these things are never willing to put their money where their mouth is and create their own instance. Anyone can create their own instance, it just never seems to be them.
Meanwhile this person seems to be perfectly content with feds bashing down my door because of stuff they say, just not their door.
If everywhere you go is shit, maybe you've stepped on it
maybe. or maybe there's shit everywhere.
People please remember to not feed the trolls
i'm being completely sincere and honest.
If you consistently run into the problem that nobody wants to hear what you're saying, maybe it's time to stop saying it.
I'm not saying EVERY case, but, maybe consider it.
why would i change my fundamental understanding of rational morality based on popular opinion? i believe that there are more limp-wristed pacifists out there than there are warriors with a conscience, but that just means i need to amplify myself even more so people understand what's at stake.
Your very use of the word limpwristed points the way to why you're not being taken seriously. If you want to build and promote a violent a movement you need to be the change you wish to see in this world. Start a Matrix server, install Signal, develop a comms SOP and get out to protest and speak with like minded individuals. Arm yourselves, learn tactics and discuss plans in private. Join the SRA https://socialistra.org/
There's plenty of info on how to do this all over the onion network.
But you sound more like an agent provocateur. There's a long history of people like you that discredit leftist and anarchist movements. We don't want you in public spaces shouting violent rhetoric and making us even more of a target for state violence.
if we are going to talk about systemic change for a better world, violence has to be a tool in the toolbox
If we are going to talk about change, we should absolutely talk about it, discuss it, vote on candidates instituting it. Violence is the instant death of talk, discussion, and the democratic process.
sounds like what a lawful good sucker would say.
violence is the beginning of a wonderful conversation if you're serious about change. if you're a naive sucker that thinks that YOUR generation will be the one that finally does it through democracy, then lol. just lol.
i believe in democracy. we just need to eliminate about 10% of the voters that keep the wrong institutions in power.
show me how it will change any other way in time to avoid the dystopia at our doorstep.
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cute quote. didn't read the book. it sounds like what someone without a spine or real moral compass would say. it's really not that hard to understand right and wrong. people want to make you think that it's all too complicated, but it's really not.
EDIT: you pussies sure can use the downvote button, but yet you can't make a worthy counter argument.