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I actually didn't care when there was an ad in the beginning of the video or what not. It was when I had to start watching multiple ads in the middle of a 10 minute video as well. Like come on, not even broadcast TV is that annoying.
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Shorts are such a stupidly blatant way to start showing more ads than content, and they make navigating channels impossible. Hell you can't even get away from ads in search results with premium.
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Same here. I was listening to a beautiful violin piece being played by a soloist and an ad interrupted it. I would be fine with watching the ad before. I immediately went and watched it elsewhere.
Later, I came back to YouTube for something unrelated and had a message/popup that said 'tired of being interrupted? Upgrade to premium here!'
They know exactly what they are doing, trying to make it unbearable to use anything other than premium. They can get fucked.
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Or the knack of starting the add 2 seconds into a guitar solo...
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Normal TV is infuriating enough that I can’t be bothered to watch any of that stuff. Watching videos on a computer is just so much nicer. If TV broadcasting stopped tomorrow and everyone around me was in a conspiracy of hiding it from me, it could take me years to find out.
YouTube has been going downhill for many years now, and there have been many incremental steps towards becoming as bad as TV. If they take that final step, I’ll start treating YT the same way I treat TV.
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laughs in firefox + uBlock Origin
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If I understand correctly, there's nothing about Firefox that makes ad blockers any harder to detect. What can Firefox and uBlock do to stop Google from blocking adblock users on the site?
That said, I use Firefox and uBlock myself, and I've yet to see YouTube stop me from using the site.
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It doesn't matter if YouTube can detect uBlock. The great thing about uBlock is you can just block the anti-adblock script. Since Javascript is executed on the user's computer, it's trivial to just tell your computer to ignore it. And moving it to server side would cost them too much money in processing power.
That's why they want everyone to adopt their DRM, so they don't have to worry about it.
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Firefox currently enjoys protection from being "relatively niche" in the browser market (aka not Chromium based trash).
But if I had to place a bet on which browser would put effort in to protecting your privacy, including which extensions are installed, my bet would be on Firefox over Chrome.
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i think it's mainly the list maintainers staying on-the-ball with changes to sites. they can move quicker than a giant corporation can develop, test, and roll-out potentially site-breaking changes that could adversely affect 'billions' of users.
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It has always been my understanding that uBlock and uBlock Origin were two totally different extensions for ad blocking. Is this not correct? Back several year ago when ad blockers were new, I recall seeing two different Firefox listings for them, and people would caution users to get uBlock Origin and not the other truncated named one
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The difference is Firefox is not a chromium based browser and thus not subject to googles fucking bullshit, esp when we come to things like web drm
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What can Firefox and uBlock do to stop Google from blocking adblock users on the site
Not sure if you question is serious ... but just in case, Mozilla is one of the few non-profit orgs that is fighting for an open web
ref. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/about/manifesto/and uBlock Origin can literally work its magic because firefox provides the necessary APIs that allows it to work. (old ref. but AFAIK still relevant: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/uBlock-Origin-works-best-on-Firefox)
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Just another Firefox fan boy. They do this shit when as blockers get brought up too as if Brave, Vivaldi, etc isn't going to strip out the ad blocker nonsense when they build their versions. Just because these versions use Chromium as a base in no way means they have to use their code. Firefox fan boys are too busy talking about Firefox to understand this.
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Except WEI is going to make it so the website can detect and block you if you don't allow the ads, regardless of your browser and extensions
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At the moment WEI has been rejected by mozilla, so it wont be implemented into firefox. if google decides to add it into chrome and to their services, they will effectively lock out all firefox users. - A very anarchistic part of me actually would like to see how that would play out ... but at the moment i am unsure if google would actually dare doing this, but i guess, it will only be a matter of time and we'll find out.
Not sure if this move would actually damage the open web ... since basically google would single itself out as the enemy ... and i dont see many users appreciating such a move.
But if the worst happens and the whole web follows googles example, i guess we can just call this iteration of a "open web" a failure and start over with something much simpler ... maybe something like the gemini protocol as its base, which isnt polluted with clientside javascript garbage and bloated CSS/XHTML parsers and rendering engines .
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Firefox + uBlock Origin user here. I started getting those popups a few days ago.
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Laughs in Invidious
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People who choose not to watch ads are far more likely to not spend money based on ads. I know that when I see the same crappy ads over and over, yeah, I remember the name of the product, and I remind myself every time never to buy it. I'm more likely to buy from that seller if I don't see their ads.
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Everyone thinks ads only work on other people, that's why ads haven't been banned yet.
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Yeah. I'm completely allergic to ads. If this goes through I'm simply not going to use YT anymore.
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I operate this way too. There must be literally dozens of us.
In all seriousness, I do find it somewhat surprising that some of these companies think saturating everything with ads is a good idea. As a simple matter of brand recognition, I get that the power of suggestion is a helluva drug. But all that stuff does eventually glom together in my head as general advertising nonsense -- as a result I see companies that advertise less / not at all and rely on a quality product and word of mouth as a better buy.
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I can list a ton of products I by principle will never use. Athelic greens, casper mattresses, simplisafe, express/nordVPN, Honey ... Some people may see a pattern there.
Ironically I might actually buy your product even if you spam annoying ads as long as you do it on a platform I block ads on.
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No Ad is good sunscreen.
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then they are succesfully livin in your head rent free
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Chumba.....Jordan Peterson and the stupid best fiends game, I'll NEVER use
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Lamo this will introduce more people to revanced
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You know why it's called revanced? Because youtube came after vanced. They wont ignore it forever, unfortunately.
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The thing is that Revanced follows a new distribution model. Rather than distributing a modified app, they instead distribute patches for the normal YouTube APK so that the user modifies the app on their own device. Thus, ReVanced never distributes any of Google's IP. It's kinda like game modding. ReVanced will be a lot harder for Google to kill.
The one downside for ReVanced is that it's harder for ordinary users to install, so that will limit its popularity.
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What are they gonna do? Revanced is just a patcher, unlike the previous version that fully distributes modified YouTube apk. There is a separate repo that has patched YouTube apk, but if that repo got taken down, the revanced manager still live on.
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it's YouTube re-Advanced
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Bailamos.
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Or, you could buy YouTube TV, which gives you YouTube Premium as a undisclosed bonus I’ve found. A great option because it helps content creators and allows you to cut cable. I may have some bias on the topic of paying for media content services, but in general pirating hurts the creators. I hate that I’m old and wise enough that I might have been more receptive to Metallica’s arguments during the Napster era. I do feel though that it is in the best interest of creators for certain content to be previewable. The problem with YouTube video monetization are that most are not going to be rewatched.
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Adblock is one of the greatest human inventions of all time.
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The best anti virus innovation in decades.
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I agree
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Oh my, the creators get paid?!?
https://influencermarketinghub.com/youtube-money-calculator/
Oh... So no, not really...
Sounds like they're lying to me!
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I don't remember which creator said it but basically by donating them even one dollar they're profiting more than if you sit thru hours and hours of ads. I guess objectively one can claim the moral high ground by watching ads but that really is like tossing bread crumbs to a beggar.
I'd really like platform like YouTube to come up with a subscribtion model that you pay like $10/month of which 20% goes to YouTube and the rest is split between the creators of which videos you have been watching. Even better if there's a way to prioritize the ones that you really want to give your support to.
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You've just described YouTube Premium. Except it's $14/month now. And I don't know the numbers for how much of that goes to creators.
You can also "join" a channel, assuming that channel has it enabled.
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Imagine believing you get paid to make videos on a video sharing platform. Who do those people think they are?
/s
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I don't think I've ever seen the word "allowlisted". Did someone forget "whitelisted" is a thing, or is that term finally cancelled?
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Whitelist and blacklist were indeed cancelled despite having no racial origin.
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There are cultural traditions of using colors as symbols, many of which are harmless -- red for anger, blue for sadness, green for envy. Whitelist and blacklist come from the very long-standing theme of using white to represent good and black to represent evil.
Regardless of how you feel about the origin of those themes, it makes sense to start moving away from them now. Whether intentional or not, they can be harmful and aren't really necessary.
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It's not been cancelled.
I'm sure someone raised concerns over racist origins, or that they were uncomfortable with the terms. Or perhaps programmers did it themselves as a part of introspection that came around with GitHub changing from "master branch" to "main branch".Which likely lead people to realise that blacklist and whitelist aren't really descriptive.
Blacklist came from the 1600s, regarding regicide. And the opposite of that is obviously whitelist.
But it doesn't actually describe what it's doing, and ultimately it is an idiom.
Removing idioms in coding is generally good practice.
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You are predictably behind the curve
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Even the FBI recommends you use an adblocker, for your personal safety. Source: https://www.tomsguide.com/news/the-fbi-now-recommends-using-an-ad-blocker-heres-why
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Remember when YouTube was just a video of a guy at the zoo? Pepperidge farm remembers...
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Those suckers sold it to google for a billion dollars. They got screwed.
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I heard they were barely able to contain the site at the end as the growth began and expense of maintaining it skyrocketed.
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Two days ago I noticed when watching through the app on my phone that I could no longer just skip ads, and the trick of reporting them to skip didn't work anymore either. I effectively had to just sit and wait.
That same day I got NewPipe, imported my subscriptions, and honestly even if this is just a phased trial or something, I won't be going back to the standard YT app.
Creators make pennies from ad revenue. If I want to support them, I'll make a donation or subscribe to their Patreon or something.
I won't just sit and suffer a slew of ads while my data is harvested under the false pretense that it's all to support the creators.
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You can also try out ReVanced if you wish to access YouTube with your account
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Thanks for the tip! Will give it a go.
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The problem is that YouTube infrastructure is ridiculously expensive. Streaming 4K videos is not a joke. Creators won't create crap without YouTube. Sadly all other platforms have died. Again, because running such service is ridicolously expensive.
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I'm unironically considering ditching any online interaction(s) on the internet and use my PC solely for offline content (write documentaries, texts, play retro games). Because I really don't want to use the internet with that level of intrusion in my pc.
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Take any cybersecurity class and you'll want to burn your tech in a dumpster. In most cases it's security by obscurity from sheer numbers that hackers/sites don't give a crap about you alone.
Additionally, every site you have ever visited tracks your browser, IP, OS, location, and more. This AdBlock tracker is just observing that you have a plugin for ad blocking. That's the least intrusion that YouTube does.
In summary, there's no need to be paranoid, but only because everything that can be stolen or observed already has been.
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Also to add to what you said, switch away from (Google) Chrome everyone!!
Imagine this message, but on every website, and it literally cannot be prevented, as the browser itself will sooner than later just straight up tell the sites "yo, your content has been modified, maybe block the user from viewing", snitching on you.
Come to think of it now, I wonder if this will affect poorly implemented sites using that feature to accidentally (or intentionally…) disable dark mode/reader extensions.
And then, due to Chrome's market share, if left unchanged, web developers/companies will at some point just not bother anymore. Imagine "this works best in Google Chrome, download now" you see for some web apps today, but even with the most basic text based site that can't prevent you from using your Adblocker in e.g. Firefox or Safari.
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every site you have ever visited tracks your browser, IP, OS, location, and more.
This is wrong to a degree of paranoia. That's simply not true. Every site can observe it, some might even log it, but that's a far cry for tracking it.
In most cases it's security by obscurity from sheer numbers that hackers/sites don't give a crap about you alone.
Also no, maybe in the 90s, but modern systems are (increasingly) designed to be secure by default.
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It is like people freaking out over giving out their phone number and SS number. I guarantee you that info is already out there in countless databases.
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I’ve had the same thought before but then I don’t want to become one of those older out of touch people. I think each generation feels like the world was in better shape when they were younger. But the truth is that many of the young kids today will look back on 2023 with the same fondness and nostalgia as I do when I think about the 1990s. Back in the day older people would warn us that video games and television would rot our brains. Now we warn our kids that TikTok will do the same. Everything is always getting faster and faster but young people are adaptable and I think they’ll find their way.
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The streaming crash has only just begun.
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A new dark age is dawning.
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The golden years of the 1650s to 1730s await
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Desktop replacements: FreeTube and Piped. I personally prefer FreeTube; the UI is way better than Piped.
Android: LibreTube (it also works with Piped but I just imported my youtube subscription list instead). There is also NewPipe too!
If you'd rather dump YouTube entirely, there is Odysee and PeerTube. Though for most people they're just not viable, total replacements. Only you can decide for yourself on that matter.
Enjoy!
Edit: If you want to export your YouTube subs and playlists you'll have to do Google Takeout; but after that it's super easy to import/export them from Freetube and Piped whenever ya want.
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You might like NewPipe for android. Same flexibility with importing subs, but cleaner and less errors, in my experience, but as long as you're not using the YT app...
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Oh yea forgot about NewPipe. I'm happy with LibreTube but I'll edit my post to add it.
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Vinegar is a Safari extension for iOS that turns the YouTube media player into a generic iOS one, completely bypassing all of these restrictions. I’m not savvy enough to know if it’s something Google can kill or not, but it’s working great for me right now. Even lets you do PiP and background play.
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Let's not forget: https://github.com/revanced
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Odysee has an extension that redirects youtube videos to odysee if its available
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For IOS peeps: I’m using Orion browser, which supports some firefox entensions like UblockOrigin that blocks ads. Brave also works.
Downside is they’re missing a good number of features, and changing playback speed messes up the audio
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I guess such things are going to get broken as well if YouTube walks down that path.
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And so grew another head for hydra.
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Fuck this shit with the force of a billion adblockers.
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Just yesterday they stopped allowing me to see home page and recommendations unless I turn on watch history, which I am not doing ever. So they can keep forcing my hand and see how far it goes. If anything am stubborn enough to enjoy this kind of petty behavior from major players. They keep thinking "oh they will just do what we ask them to", but I'll do the opposite out of spite. I'll just use !videos or similar communities to find my recommendations until the day comes where I stop using it completely. I quit Facebook this way, quit Reddit and Twitter, quit WhatsApp. Keep at it guys, let's see who's more stubborn.
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Actually watching only what you search for or are subscribed to is a great way to stop wasting your time on stupid shorts you used to watch for hours a day (at least for me)
Plus I don't want an algorithm to feed me stupid things it thinks I would like, that's what leads to polarization and countless other negative aspects in social media
Also I suggest to everyone readinh to watch "The social dilemma" a masterpiece that exposes these problems
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That's a good point. However I trained YouTube not to feed me crap, couldn't skip shorts though. What I did was disable search and watch history and then blocked videos and channels that I didn't want affecting me ever. In time algorithm figured out what I wanted so I got somewhat related and interesting content. Not all of it but a lot of it since they had to focus on my likes and dislikes instead of watch history. This has now changed.
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I don't think they care about the small handful of people who will stop watching YouTube over this, to be honest.
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That is fine by me! But I doubt the number will be so small. Still I don't care how many. Am not selling my data becauseo others are. -
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I'll take some of that action. There needs to be some sort of medical term for the reaction that adverts inspire in me. At this point, it's pathological. It's interesting to contrast YouTube's original form with the abomination it has become today. Almost as if corporations wait patiently while they achieve market dominance before they come out with absurd and Orwellian ethical statements about 'breaking rules'. Before that it was a big house, come on in and enjoy the cornucopia. No, Google, we will never stop blocking your poison. All we want is the service.
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Also happened to me
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What is !videos ?
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Shit, same thing happened to me ! I thought the website had bugged out.
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This actually helped me reduce my screen time. The only positive to come out of this, I suppose.
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That's did news. Perhaps after mastodon grow massive thanks to Elon, and Lemmy grow thanks to reddit, we see peertube get his time to shine thanks to Google... #fuckupyourcompanyFAST
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Text is fine but you can't really expect the Fediverse to serve heavy media at a large scale
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That, and content creators that aren’t hobbyists need to be paid. Some of my favorite channels rely on ad revenue. Sure, things like patreon exist, but the system won’t work without a fair way to compensate content creators. Obviously blasting people with insane ads, especially ads that are often political, isn’t the way forward.
Media that’s meant to be free, e.g. uploading videos with no expectation of revenue, should stay that way, with community support to keep the platform alive. But content that is professionally produced as someone’s livelihood also needs a way to survive.
Unfortunately a lot of people think “fuck all that, I’ll watch what I want, I shouldn’t have to pay, it should all be free.” I’d rather pay specifically for the content I like and support those creators than the blanket “put ads on everything” YouTube has adopted.
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I'd love to see PeerTube grow just like these platforms, but I think it's a lot more complicated to get people to use it than mastodon/lemmy.
Twitter/Reddit weren't used as a major income source like YouTube and Instagram (I am saying this based on famous people in my country, I don't know how it goes on other places), and so are easier to replace. The people posting and discussing topics don't do that for the money, they do because they like it.
YT and its monetization system made possible for people to make a living from the content they produce, and many wouldn't like or simply couldn't sacrifice this income source just to go to a more ethical and private platform like PeerTube.
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Another thing to add to that, computer text is amazingly dense. An audio file of me saying just the first word takes up more bytes than this whole comment. Each english ascii charicter is a byte, each non-english char is 1 to
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They can still ask me to join their Patreon using PeerTube.
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Sucks but on the flipside it means that I’ll have more time for myself.
I already spend less time on social media because R/all sucks balls and lemmy doesn’t have too much content. I don’t have any other social media.
I also don’t have cable or pay for streaming services, so I found a replacement in the form of YouTube and Spotify (podcasts). I’m ok if these options go away.
There are a lot of hobbies that I want to do and the less distracted I am, the higher chance that I’ll choose to do them instead of dicking around.
Tldr: brings it on!
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Yeah I used to be on reddit everyday before everything went to hell and now I'm only on it like once a week and lemmy only a few days in between usage.
Life is more.. enjoyable now? Lol
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For me, I wouldn't say it's more enjoyable per se. I miss looking into interesting topics. However, I do find myself focusing on my business more which I guess is a bonus. But outside of that, it's very disappointing the enshitification of the Internet that's occurring.
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Fast forward: Adverticement for cheetoes blares from the screen and aceshigh stares, as if in a trance, at the screen of flickering colours. In the background are half finished hobbies strewn on the numerous surfaces of the room. A cat jumps up on the table, pushing a half full glass on the floor and starts to scream at aceshigh. The monitor switches to an upbeat man shouting "Surfass VPN! You need it!". The cat, at this point almost having a red face, finally snaps aceshigh out of their absent state and they go "Not now Flufferdudel! gotta finish this video".
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Same, except that I listen to podcasts and Youtube videos while working (it's a boring job) so I still don't want to totally quit Youtube and Deezer
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Firefox + Ublock Origin Or Youtube Revanced (their only official site is their github) (android only)
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The worry is they will go the twitch way. Ublock origins struggles with Twitchs anti adblock fight
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The ads are not the true problem. The tracking and profiling is. They keep the rhetoric about the ads while forcing both. I'd be kinda okay with just untargeted ads. Maybe not fully okay but I'd be far more willing to tolerate them. This privacy violating thing the modern Internet made a norm? Hell no!
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It's weird because there's lots of studies showing that tracking users' interests isn't even that much more effective than targeting based on the page content.
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That’s interesting. Got a source?
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Efficacy man not always translate to ad sales.
When you're selling your product and school and society have told you that you need to know your demographic, when you get to that ad manager page, you want to see your ad only being paid for on that demographic.
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Unfortunately from their perspective that isn't apples to apples. They can charge higher rates for targeted ads.
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I just canceled my youtube premium account after about 7 years of constant membership.
The recent price increase was crap. The service I receive hasn't improved - actually with their shitty compression even on "4k" videos my enjoyment has really decreased.
But, the big driver were ads. With premium I didn't see ads, instead I was increasingly bombarded with "words from our sponsor" all over videos.
Anyway, I recommend freetube. For now at least, it actually blocks all ads including sponsor blocks.
I won't pay a monthly fee to be google's advertising product.
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Start downloading and archiving videos you like. Especially educational content, share it with others, keep the information free and accessible for all.
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I have yet to see this running ublock origin on firefox
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Same. And the instant I do I will stop using youtube.
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YouTube has gotten nice guy aggressive with fucking ads, especially on here ... Instead of the video you see instant ad. I will not watch the ad so I click back and instead of taking me back to my app YouTube shrinks the ad then keeps it there I have to press back another two times to get the fuck away from YouTube so I can copy the link and open it in Firefox with ublock origin. I love new pipe.
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It is being tested on select viewers before rollout.
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If they really force me to subscribe, I will... to Nebula.
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You should do this anyway - it funds great original educational content, and is quite good value.
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Not with the same clickbait YT content there.
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What Nebula really needs is some content that isn't just people talking about stuff. I can appreciate a video essay now and then, but it's the whole platform. I have a subscription right now, really only because of Philosophytube, but I can't really find anything I'm that interested in watching.
It really needs some like sketch comedy, tech reviews, dumb little videos of people out doing stuff, or like, cats sitting on roombas. Cater to something other than wanting to listen to people blather their opinions all day.
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(Creators should start backing up their content and get ready to shift to new platforms)
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"well now you can go to nebula the site by creators for creators"
... Who will unironically post the exact same content from their YouTube channel, adread and all
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I don't see the problem with that. The difference is you pay instead of being served YouTube pre-roll ads. And they get a bigger cut than it would off of YouTube premium.
As many hours as it takes to make a video It's kind of amazing some people upload different versions on each platform, they don't really have to.
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I don't think I've noticed any adreads or sponsorship stuff on any of the content ive watched there actually, though of course that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, I may have just been lucky with my subscribe list.
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Won't matter. As soon as those alternatives get big enough, they'll either sell out or look for more ways to maximize profits. The Internet is wholely infected by corporations now. Just need better ways to beat them back somehow.
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YouTube has never changed the way creators get paid without notice before so you're probably right everyone is safe. Google isnt pinching pennies and everything is fine
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It still does matter because as long as enough people keep abandoning mature (rotten) corporations for the younger ones, the right and unignorable signal will be sent.
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Why? At least for monetized creators, they get paid more if the ads run and even more if more of their viewers subscribe.
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Until earlier this year I just watched the ads because in some small way it supports creators and I could deal with it. Then they increased the number of ads per watch-time to egregious levels.
I certainly wasn't going to reward a company for making the existing service worse by subscribing. Started using the apps people mention immediately and also setup pihole to block more ads.
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Well they need ads to pay for streaming all of those conspiracy videos, aliens crap, repackaged copies of other videos, ai generated crap, shitty "click and subscribe!" videos, etc...
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Been an avid Youtube viewer since the very beginning. Now, I'm paying for the site and using a bunch of extensions just to get a worse experience than I was getting on youtube 5 - 10 years ago. After seeing all of my favorite content become unprofitable and die off, I am so ready to jump ship. I think in the immediate future, Patreon and Nebula are providing the alternative that will get creators paid reliably.
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Most decent ad blockers already don't load ads
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That's great, but what about us gentiles?
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Fuck em. I'll just stop watching if it comes down to it. Hell, even without an alternative.
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I like New pipe. Hopefully doesn't affect it.
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Ublock Origin users: purge cache and update. A fix has been deployed.
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purge cache and update
Music to my ears.
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Maybe one day all of the mega corporations on the internet will finally drive me from the internet itself and I'll finally do something useful with my time.
Until that day...
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I remember when there were no ads. Ugh.
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Can't wait, i should quit YouTube anyways
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YouTube can, in the strongest possible terms, absolutely go fuck itself lol
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I did. Don't miss it one bit.
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I miss the good old days on YouTube.
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We need an AdBlock for adblockers now. Hopefully this will get bypassed.
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From what I've gathered, it already has, though fair warning if you use YouTube Enhancer, it breaks the bypass so you have to disable the adblocking within Enhancer (as this one person on the uBO subreddit learned).
Also just a fair warning, it should be obvious at this point but it's almost certainly not going to work on chrome because it's Google's browser.
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In general, seems theyve been enabling this on chrome first, and firefox is fine with it ( for now ) Friend had this on chrome, moved to firefox and it all just worked ( for now ).
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There used to be a trick where you can skip ads in youtube app by pretending to report it. i’ve used that to skip the 2x30s unskippable ads over the years, but that was patched recently.
So instead of occasionally watching ads while scrolling through comments, I’ve now opt to watch youtube in browser with UblockOrigin. And good luck to google for playing catch-22 with adblockers.
Shame that I used to have youtube in my adblock whitelist
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Playing Catch up not catch 22 lol
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Yeah, the unskippable ads are just maddening. Within the first 5 seconds I should either know what the product is, and my interest is established or not, or I'm hooked enough to watch the full ad. When I see the ad marked as unskippable, I'm automatically less receptive to the ad, it's demanding more than it's fair time for my consideration, so I don't want to even think about it.
One particularly maddening one was an ad that was 30 seconds, unskippable, and the theme was "our ad is so short, you don't even miss the ability to skip it!" If it didn't piss me off before, that really pushed me over the edge.
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That's the thing for me. I'm fine with ads on a free service. Where I draw the line is my kid watching a spooky Jillian and Addy video with a 30 minute unskippable ad that's just a religious talk show or right wing rapper music video. If they policed it better and kept the ads to around 60 seconds or less I'd be fine. Until then, no ads for me.
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Not just that. I have always turned of history and analytics since 2020. I use you tube to check news about happening events in my region(politics and stuff), so I can open the video on invidious or newpipe. But yesterday, as I opened you tube, it threw me this message... So, now I feel better, but seems, they have never stopped tracking what I search and watch, even when I opted to keep it off. Also maybe it is due to new feature where we can see the full video in hover mode, without clicking it to watch. But whatever, I wanted to let lemmy people to know that something like this happened yesterday to me.
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Watch history is an absolutely essential metric for Youtube - I can understand how you've been led to believe that turning this option off is opting out from that data collection, but no. What this setting is asking is if you want the data collected to be represented to you as recommendations for other videos to watch. It absolutely doesn't change what data is collected, just whether the videos you've watched should be accounted for when the algorithm is finding new videos to recommend.
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Also happened to me, it's very annoying
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They can absolutely go fuck themselves. I've already weened myself off of nearly every social media, stopped paying for YT premium because they keep doing bullshit I don't like. I'm so ready for an alternative.
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PeerTube looks quite promising with its decentralised model. Surely it will never be perfect. But decentralisation is essencial. Also because the types of videos I like to see in YouTube either are monetised by themselfs in some way. Or are not monetised at all. YouTube does not seem necessary for those creators.
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Been using PeerTube on and off for about a year now, been planning on starting a maths education channel on Trom. It's definitely got potential, but I don't see the average Youtube user migrating over to it any time soon. The main issue really is that children/young teens are a large portion of the target audience for a lot of big creators these days and the mobile apps for peertube are heavily lacking still. Not helped of course by the fact that one of the better android apps, NewPipe, which allows both YouTube and PeerTube in one place is not on the Play Store
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Lol, I've seen that but still just use the adblocker and it plays as normal.
I think it's meant to scare non tech savvy people. I don't see how they can stop us using adblockers....
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Haha! Forced ads = no watchie-watchie. I have played this game with YouTube before, and the adblockers always win.
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I don't think corpos ever win in the digital world. as long as there is paid content, people will find a way to get it for frwe
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I wonder what'll happen when the bubble bursts this time around, will it be as bad as the Dot-com crash or worse? (Enshitification is the reaction to not having enough money and needing to try to make money quickly to pay back investors).
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I'm with the group that refuses to ever watch YT ads, but I guess it does help reduce bandwidth if they kick everyone off that's using an adblocker.
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