Want a 3D printer in New York? Get ready for fingerprinting and a 15 day wait

As usual, I have to wonder first if anyone actually put any thought into this, and further if anyone thought how the fuck they're going to enforce it. This is just manufacturing one step removed... Anyone willing to make a gun with a 3D printer is certainly capable and willing of building their own 3D printer as well.

Or buying/building a milling machine. Or a lathe. Or a drill, a hacksaw, and some files.

Down this road lies madness.

Man I want actual gun control not this bullshit.

3d printed plastic guns are real in a sense but not in any practical way. I am not sure why so many people think this is a concern. If I have a box of ammo, I can probably go into my shop and come up with a way to fire it. I doubt I would use my 3d printer in that project though. There are better ways to makeshift a weapon.

"COMPUTER OR COMPUTER-DRIVEN MACHINE OR DEVICE CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A THREE-DIMENSIONAL OBJECT FROM A DIGITAL MODEL."

I can print an origami pattern on my inkjet using my cell phone...

This bill would require literally every single commercial machinist in the state to also register as they qualify under such broad wording. That's fucking retarded and every single manufacturing company left (what few there may be) will fight this tooth and nail.

Me in aus realising i can be arrested for clicking many of the links in this thread lol.

lol

And just imagine, you can make a shitty gun for 20 bucks using parts from the local hardware store.

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ITT: Many people make the incorrect assumption that, aside from some specific state- and city-level ordinances, there is such a thing as "firearm registration" in the US.

This is a myth largely promulgated by TV shows about cops. There is no nationwide firearms registry in the United States.

Regulation != Registration.

What does happen is that when a firearm is legally purchased from a dealer (FFL), the buyer must submit to and pass a federal background check. Records of these are not retained centrally, but each FFL dealer must maintain their own records of their own sales, indefinitely, as long as they remain in business. Ready to be reviewed at any time by the cops or ATF. Failure to do so can land the dealer in very deep shit. Centralized collection of firearm transaction records is prohibited by federal law, under the assumption that such a central record would be used to target, harass, and confiscate arms from their owners whenever the government felt like it (which is probably about a 50/50 mix of paranoia and accurate prediction).

Some states also require their own more strict background checks. States also vary in how strict or lax they are in requiring background checks for transfers between private individuals, and not a dealer. There is no federal requirement for private sellers to conduct a background check to transfer ownership of a firearm except across state lines, but many states themselves do have such a requirement. Further, transfers and sales of handguns often have stricter state level requirements vs. long guns (rifles and shotguns).

3D printing a firearm (receiver) does not allow any individual to "evade" any type of mythical "registration," which by and large does not exist -- as above. It does, however, allow a suitably motivated individual who could not pass a federal or state background check to get their hands on a presumably functional firearm.

It is perfectly legal for a person who is not prohibited from possessing a firearm to begin with to manufacture their own firearm, via 3D printer or otherwise, on a federal level. Some states have already enacted restrictions on this, however.

It is already illegal for a person prohibited from possessing a firearm to A) manufacture a firearm, B) possess any firearm (duh), or C) possess ammunition for any firearm, whether they are found to have a firearm to put it in or not.

It is already illegal for a person to manufacture firearm(s) for the purposes of selling, trading, giving away, or otherwise putting into the possession of others, if they are not a federally licensed firearms manufacturer.

It is already illegal to provide access to a firearm to a person prohibited.

It is already illegal to use any manufacturing method (even a 3D printer) to produce a firearm or component that is otherwise illegal or restricted NFA item such as a machine gun, suppressor, short barreled rifle, etc., etc.

I think the reason is because legislators are looking for gun restrictions that can pass, and the combination of legislative obstruction and the Supreme Courts recent ruling against pretty much any gun law written after 1860 or something has basically made it impossible to regulate the purchase of actual guns. So now they're looking for whatever law they can pass regardless of whether it makes sense.

It's fucked up.

Don’t 3d printed guns crack after like 2 shots? Next they’re going to require ID to buy pipe and nails in order to guard everyone from modern improvised muskets.

There are probably makerspaces in NY where people can drop in and print stuff. No waiting or fingerprinting there, even when you want to print gun parts

Time to make reprap.

"Any 3d printer capable of printing a gun" seems pretty broad but wouldn't 3d print kits get around this easily. Like if I buy a prusa MK4 it can print gun parts out of the box but a pile of prusa mk4 parts ain't printing shit.

From a digital model

Get ready for analog printing, boys.

Also, if I move to New York, what then? I have to keep it in PA for two weeks?

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