trains rule

Trains really rule.
- So do grandmas. Usually.
  
  Yeah, one of my grandmas is the sweetest lady I know of. The other one? Yeah let's not talk about her.

i think if killing pedestrians is a common occurrence for you then you should really stay off the roads.
- In 2022 in the EU+EFTA, 106446 pedestrians were injured, 3785 were killed.
  
  Wow, that's more than were killed in the WTC terrorist attacks.
- Got to get Grandma's heart transplant somehow.
- Killing pedestrians is a common occurance for car based transportation
- that's why they want trains

Hey, now. Trains do end the occasional pedestrian, but it's not so much hit as much obliterate

my grandma is too close for a train but too far for a walk, perfect for a bike if we didnt have a left turn onto 55mph highway with no sidewalks as our only route to her
give me fucking bike lanes i hate being trapped in this house because of bad infrastructure, at least a sidewalk to seperate me from traffic
- Bike lanes tend to be really dangerous. Better to bike with traffic on side streets and on busy streets you really want a separated bike path rather than a shared road.
  
  yeah i was referring to seperated bike lanes, we have shitty painted bike gutters already
- Could petition the city to install a bike bridge over the highway. There are a few cities out there with similar constructions in place.

Fast trains so that you can be restricted in exactly when you can visit and still pay for it. And then have to walk the rest of the distance from the train station to her house. There is so many flaws people just ~~fail~~ refuse to see.
- Good? For people without mobility restrictions having a short walk as part of traveling or commuting is a good thing. And for everything longer than a few minutes there should be bus, tram and light rail access.
  
  And how long of a walk? I'm not walking 15 miles to go see Grandma I'm just gonna drive.
- Oh no, I can only take the train to Grandma once or twice per hour* during the daytime! The calamity!
  *Yes, those are absolutely realistic time tables for train connections, Europe has those.
  
  Not in us, because cities are more spread out, even with better infrastructure it would still be every 6-7 hours or more.
- Walking! 😟 The horror!!! 😭
  
  As I said in the other one, I'm not walking 15 miles to see Grandma.
- But just think you could spend that time on your phone making even more absurd comments
- Cars are even more restricted in travel time. Unlike trains, which typically come multiple times an hour, car travel has to be planned around rush hour and gridlock.
  Honestly, I don’t even know how we can be debating this. Car dependence is a dead end. Cars don’t scale because a linear increase in drivers requires a non-linear increase in surface area. Car dependence makes it impossible to meet our climate goals. These catastrophic failures are so much worse than needing to walk a few blocks. There are so many flaws that car people just ~~fail~~ refuse to see.
  
  Trains go from nowhere near where I live, to nowhere near anywhere I want to go, then cost just as much as a car (Yes I did the sums).
  To use trains not only do I have to use my car I also have to pay for parking. May as well drive wherever I want to go.
  Of course traffic jams are real. That's why wherever possible I either go on the motorbike or shop on Amazon instead.
  
  I see them it's just I don't really care since they are so very minor as opposed to any other type of large-scale transportation, especially trains.
- I know right, a plane ride will take me exactly to her house! What kind of logic is this? Can you recommend a method to travel across the US to visit my grandma that wouldn't require me paying or being restricted in where I could go? That is how modern travel works in every form.
  Also anyway when I take the train I could take a bike with me and bike the rest of the way, or in my city there is a free shuttle from the train station to the center of downtown, with buses every direction from there, any many bigger cities have light-rails or subways that connect from train stations. And it's healthy to walk, people have walked for thousands of years.
  
  Plane rides aren't for frequent and shorter trips. Cars are a cheap way to get there and you aren't restricted at all.

🎼 We don't need no gas fueled cars,

I love the idea of trains, have always loved trains when I was younger, and until very recently had never been on one. My brother purchased tickets for me and my boyfriend to go visit him and so I was very excited to finally get on the train. The thing i didnt really think about was the fact that I get car sick in SUVs and trucks if im not driving because of the softness of the suspension and body roll. The train is a bit bouncy. The trip down was me sleeping for like 30 mins or so, getting up to throw up in the bathroom, repeat for about 19 hours. I felt terribly nauseous and had migrane the entire time.
The trip back I was prepared, I had those anti-car sock glasses and some dramamine, I took it, fell asleep for about 8 hours. Woke up and was okay interms of not feeling sick or anything. But then the train stopped, not at a station, in the middle of a field. They told us there was some freight cargo on the line ahead and we had to wait for a moment. We were there for three hours. The lady next to us had a ticket for a different train to get on after this one, and it was for two hours after our scheduled arrival time. Well she missed it because we arrived 3 hours late.
I know train infustructure would help, and I've always been a proponent of better public transport networks...but now I hate the train 😟. I would rather drive.
- There is something to be said for the convenience of cars to be able to start driving in your own time, but for every story like that there is another with someone stuck in traffic for 3 hours because of a major accident on the highway.
  That being the case, cars are still going to have their niche for situations where Grandma lives far away from any major city and the closest train station is a 3 hour bus ride away, running twice daily at 6am and 4pm. Can't say I am sympathetic to the FuckCars crowd in that regard, nor do I think we should be dismissive of efforts to make driving more environmentally friendly just because trains are better.
- What country?
  
  United States of America
- The current situation with trains is shit because we as a country have allowed it to deteriorate.
  Waiting 3 hours for a freight train is one such example. The majority of rail lines are owned by freight companies, so they give their own trails priority over passenger trains. That shit is unacceptable.

We already have trains, I want more electric/hydro powered bus coverage and more bike storage lockers 🥺
- We can never have enough TRAAAAIIIINNNNSSSS

that fast trains will work on electricity generated by burning fossil fuel
- Not if wind turbines
  
  God I love it when wind decides to turbine, gotta be my favorite gender
- It’s pretty obvious that a single train full of passengers is more energy efficient than the same number of people driving a bunch of individual 4000 lb SUVs.

If years of trolley problems have taught me anything, it's that you can still kill all the pedestrians you want with your train as long as you make the right choices.