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Texas "physically barred" Border Patrol agents from trying to rescue migrants who drowned, federal officials say

www.cbsnews.com Texas "physically barred" Border Patrol agents from trying to rescue migrants who drowned, federal officials say

Federal officials and a congressman said National Guard soldiers deployed by Texas Gov. Greg Abbott did not allow Border Patrol agents to attempt to rescue the migrants.

A woman and two children drowned in the Rio Grande on Friday while trying to enter the U.S. near a section of the southern border where Texas National Guard soldiers have prevented federal Border Patrol agents from processing and rescuing migrants.

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Texas "physically barred" Border Patrol agents from trying to rescue migrants who drowned, federal officials say

www.cbsnews.com /news/3-migrants-drown-near-shelby-park-eagle-pass-texas-soldiers-denied-entry-federal-border-agents/

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Texas "physically barred" Border Patrol agents from trying to rescue migrants who drowned, federal officials say

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Texas "physically barred" Border Patrol agents from trying to rescue migrants who drowned, federal officials say

www.cbsnews.com /news/3-migrants-drown-near-shelby-park-eagle-pass-texas-soldiers-denied-entry-federal-border-agents/

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- Very much yes. And this time, let's complete the work.
- Yes. I live in a southern shithole and i'd completely get it if America decided to bomb the entire place into a parking lot with no warnings.
  
  No, please, bomb it into something other than a parking lot at least. The south already has way too fucking many of those.
- We should have reconstructed harder...

Imagine being so shitty you make Border Patrol look like the fucking good guys.
- Achievement unlocked.
- This is becoming a common refrain in Texas. The Uvalde shootings were bungled by multiple Texas agencies; it was Border Patrol agents who eventually stopped the shooter.

Right after Abbott said Texas would shoot migrants.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/01/greg-abbott-texas-shoot-migrants-border-biden-murder/
He said he doesn't because Biden would charge them for murder. Charge them now.

Conservatives rejoice at the misery, oppression and death they cause. This is who conservatives are.

Can we give Texas back to Mexico so they can learn a little bit about human rights?
- as a mexican national the sentiment is bus them to NYC 🗽 Nothing would change

You could divert the trolley without killing anyone but they are immigrants what do you do?
- Is there a way to flood one side of the tracks, run the trolley over the other, and kill everyone on board the trolley and the switchman to own the libs?

There is so much evil going on in this world you don't even have time to process each act anymore. Because there is something else every few hours.

On today's episode of "The cruelty is the point"
- "We'll teach those goddamn migrants. How dare they come here searching for a better life?"

Pro Life!
- Conservatives only care about children before they are born

So, these agents hear about an emergency situation at the park, but when they get there Texas state cops don't want to let them enter, so the agents... Just give up and go home? Gosh, no wonder people in Congress are talking about more funding for securing the border, we apparently don't even give our Border Patrol firearms if this is how easy it is to stop them.
- Are you suggesting the Border Patrol get into a shooting match with the TX national guard? Both sides are armed. It deserves a court case, not a gun fight.
  
  While a woman and two children drown? With all due respect, you can shove that court case right up Abbott's ass.
  
  And nothing of value would be lost.
  
  Don't bring a gun to a tank fight. Don't even need to shoot back, just roll over them if they don't get out of the way.

I didn't realize states had the power to block federal personnel from performing their duties. Maybe they should activate the National Guard to protect the border patrol guys so they can do their jobs.
- They don't but they told their soldiers they do. Federal border control isn't going to get in a shootout over it while it goes through the legal system.
  
  What's got me is, why bother with the legal system? Just call up the Texas National Guard into federal service and order them to enforce the law as regards Border Patrol's access to the border. If they refuse, court martial 'em. Either way, Border Patrol gets access to the border to cut down Texas' illegal barriers, and Abbott gets an unsubtle reminder about how the states are subordinate to the federal government. Win-win scenario.

Why is the federal government waiting for access from a state like Texas? Their officials are monsters and should be steamrolled to save lives.
- Because the federal government isn't all that motivated to do anything about it. Republicans are evil and Democrats are apathetic.

When they grandly talk that every soldier must refuse orders going against human rights, and if not, be legible to be tried and punished afterwards, they are talking about these kind of orders...

Let's remember this when Texas' grid needs federal help again.
- Fuck red states. If people want to deny other people assistance in times of need, I say we do the same to them.
  
  I get what you mean here, but I MUST point out that many people who live in red states don't believe in the same ideology, or can't get out.
  If there were a way to selectively punish the policy makers, and those that support it, I'm game. But this sounds like the same indiscriminate punishment rhetoric that Israel is using. (Please don't take offense, I know it's not how you meant it, just pointing it out)

Biden needs to send the Army in and take over the Texas Border enforcement.
Army outranks the National Guard, especially the state ones. The POTUS absolutely also does have power to command any National Guard unit to stand down as well.
- Biden needs to send the Army in and take over the Texas Border enforcement.
  He legally can't. He is not able to unilaterally use the military as a domestic police force. This keeps the executive from using the military as their personal cudgel.
  I agree with the strong arming via national guard though. I think there are some hoops, but there's absolutely plenty of precedent for a president taking command of a state's national guard (specifically in regard to border control as well).
  
  He absolutely can send an army unit with Orders to enforce his orders to the Nat. Guard.
  
  Not police force, but actually to patrol the border? Isn't that what they were set up to do? (Albeit to defend against state actors and not individuals)
- nah man just open the border and hand them into the custody of amazon or walmart
  
  That would be a step up from the meat packing plants, crop picking, and dishwashing they usually get.
- Ironically, pretty close to what Texas wanted before being forced to do it themselves when the federal government did nothing about their complaints except denounce them for political points.

This crime occurred when people were crossing the border. The FBI needs to get involved and charge all involved with giving the order and physically restraining the agents with two counts of murder, and all present (excepting the Border Patrol agents) with accessory to murder.

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