The dream

It'll be kept within product marketing and, I dunno how, but it would absolutely be used to see what they can raise prices on

It's getting there. In the next few years as hardware gets better and models get more efficient we'll be able to run these systems entirely locally.

I'm already doing it, but I have some higher end hardware.

I can run a pretty alright text generation model and the stable diffusion models on my 2016 laptop with two GTX1080m cards. You can try with these tools: Oobabooga textgenUi

Automatic1111 image generation

They might not be the most performant applications but they are very easy to use.

This technology will be running on your phone within the next few years.

I want mine in an emotive-looking airborne bot like Flubber

A lot of it can if you have a big enough computer.

Hey me too.

And I do have a couple different LLMs installed on my rig. But having that resource running locally is years and years away from being remotely performant.

On the bright side there are many open source llms, and it seems like there's more everyday.

Checkout /r/localLlama, Ollama, and Mistral.

This is all possible and became a lot easier to do recently.

Ha. Lame.

Edit: lol. Sign out of Google, nerds. Bring me your hypocrite neckbeard downvotes.

But "AI" is the umbrella term for all of them. What you said is the equivalent of saying:

we really need to stop calling things "vehicles". There's cars, trucks, airplanes, submarines, and space shuttles and they've all been called vehicles, but functionally they have almost nothing to do with each other

All of the things you've mentioned are correctly referred to as AI, and since most people do not understand the nuances of neural networks vs hard coded algorithms (and anything in-between), AI is an acceptable term for something that demonstrates results that comes about from a computer "thinking" and making shaved intelligent decisions.

Btw, just about every image recognition system out there is a neural network itself or has a neural network in the processing chain.

Edit: fixed an autocorrect typo

I think you're fighting a losing battle.

AI = "magic", or like "synergy" and other buzzwords that will soon become bereft of all meaning as a result of people abusing it.

There's whole countries that refer to the entire internet itself as Facebook, once something takes root it ain't going anywhere

Computer vision is AI. If they literally want a robot eye to scan their cluttered pantry and figure out what is there, that'll require some hefty neural net.

Edit: seeing these downvotes and surprised at the tech illiteracy on lemmy. I thought this was a better informed community. Look for computer vision papers in CVPR, IJCNN, and AAAI and try to tell me that being able to understand the 3D world isn't AI.

Shouldn’t there be a catch all term to explain the broader scope of the specifics?

Science is a broad term for multiple different studies, vehicle is a broad term for cars and trucks.

Language is fluid, and there is plenty of terminology that is dumb or imprecise to someone in the field, but A-ok to the wider populace. "Cloud" is also not actually a formation of water droplets, but someone's else's datacenter, but to some people the cloud is everything from Gmail to AWS.

If I say AI today and most people associate the same thing with it (these days that usually means generative AI , i.e. mostly diffusion or transformer models) then that's fine for me. Call it Plumbus for all I care.

I imagine it's because all of these technologies combine to make a sci-fi-esque computer assistant that talks to you, and most pop culture depictions of AI are just computer assistants that talk to you. The language already existed before the technology, it already took root before we got the chance to call it anything else.

Those are all very specific intelligences. The goal is to unite them all under a so-called general intelligence. You're right, that's the dream, but there are many steps along the way that are fairly called intelligence.

If capitalism brought me into this world, will it also take me out of it?

Damn that's depressing. :(

I heard they do something like this on Uber already.

The prices will automatically adjust like an Uber algorithm for supply and demand, so as people buy the item it keeps going up and when people stop buying it if decreases slowly.

That is the "apps" you will get. But there will always be an open source version that will do what the comunity need and wants.

Cameras in your fridge and pantry to keep tabs on what you have, computer vision to take inventory, clustering to figure out which goods can be interchanged with which, language modeling applied to a web crawler to identify the best deals, and then some conventional code to aggregate the results into a shopping list

Unless you're assuming that you're gonna be supplied APIs to all the grocery stores which have an incentive to prevent this sort of thing from happening, and also assuming that the end user is willing, able, and reliable enough to scan every barcode of everything they buy

This app basically depends on all the best ai we already have except for image generation

They already exist and have been doing this for a long time, they are just using dumber versions of deep learning than what we have right now.

Less about giving your personal information to an advertiser though and more about using aggregate data trends to guide marketing efforts.

Like if you know buns and hotdogs sell like crazy the week before July 4th merchandizing bundles of both that override brand purchase intent on favor of convenience and discount.

An example of this kind of market research in action would be a clothes store that knows 20% of its sales were to people who shopped the day before they came back to buy offering 48hr exit coupons that would be valid the next day for a limited time.

The personalized data is used in house at these aggregators to market to you directly, such as the war and peace length personalized coupons on receipts where they've been contracted by the retailers.

Not just advertisers, it would also get sold to food manufacturers and product developers. This is not so bad though cause it helps new products come out that might be in line with what you want

This is what "loyalty" cards are for. They give you a little discount in exchange for being able to track your purchases.

That's already a thing, though it isn't AI driven. Many intersections have sensors that detect traffic and can change the lights quickly or let them stay green longer if you're approaching it. It's only getting more advanced as time goes on.

https://youtu.be/pTR3Cn5DnHY?si=nXtqHqVMsw47FmQZ

https://youtu.be/P_EmAKRrlBc?si=McCO_tE43FaPkRL9

Doesn't need AI, and there are countries that already have a system in place with the same result. Unsurprisingly the places with more focus on pedestrian, cyclist, and public transit infrastructure have the most enjoyable driving experience. All the people that don't want to drive will stop as soon as it is safe and convenient, and all those cars off the road also help with this because the lights will be queued up with fewer cars.

That’s been a thing for decades already in a lot of places.

To be fair, there are already more intelligent traffic light systems that use sensors in the road to see if there is traffic sitting at the lights, combined with push buttons for pedestrians and cyclists. These can be combined with sensors further up the road to see if more traffic is coming and extend the periods of green light for certain sides. It may not be perfect and it may require touching up later after seeing which times could be extended or shortened. It's not AI but it works a lot better than the old hard coded traffic lights. Here in the Netherlands there are only a handfull of intersections left that still have the hard coded traffic lights.

You and Sarah Radz and everyone else here with brilliant practical ideas need to submit your resumes to the Silicon-Valley-esque corporations that comandeer such industries, be hired on as brains.

There is another solution: not use car

I mean, when that xkcd was made, that was a hard task. Now identifying a bird in a picture can be done in realtime on a raspberry pi in a weekend project.

The problem in the op isn't really a limitation of AI, it's coming up with an inventory management system that can detect low inventory without being obtrusive in a users life. The rest is just scraping local stores prices and compiling a list with some annealing algo that gets the best price to stops ratio.

Aye, this be the problem. As long as there is a profit motive the AI is going to steer you to whatever makes them money, be it whoever works the SEO game or pays for API access.

Local models are a thing, and GPT is extremely useful in some cases, even with the corporate handholding. I find the whole space super exciting, personally.

As long as the AI has access to their ongoing purchase histories it's actually quite easy to have this for day to day situations.

Where it would have difficulty is unexpected spikes in grocery usage, such as hosting a non-annual party.

In theory, as long as it was fine tuned on aggregate histories it should be decent at identifying spikes (i.e. this person purchased 10x the normal amount of perishables this week, that typically is an outlier and they'll be back to 1x next week), but anticipating the spikes ahead of time is pretty much impossible.

Also quite difficult from a vision perspective. Tons of potential object classes, objects with no class (e.g., leftovers, homemade things), potential obfuscation if you are monitoring the refrigerator/cabinets. If the object is in a container, how do you measure the volume remaining of that substance? This is just scratching the surface I imagine. These problems individually are maybe not crazy challenging but they are quite hard all together.

AI does exactly this. Like exactly.

No. That's just what they wanted you to believe. All they really did was find a way to separate people from more money.

I found out two people in my family bought smart fridges and both listed watching tv and listening to music as reasons for purchase. Not the only ones mind you, but some of the first ones mentioned. I don't get it.

Exactly. But also I'm blown away that most grocery stores don't list inventory and prices on the website. I can only think this is because they don't want to show prices in an attempt to get you to go to the store.

Men want one thing and it’s fucking disgusting.

And if it requires an API code to run on someone else's shit then it can go fuck itself. I want to self-host my AI and run it from my own domain I bought cheap during a holiday sale.

The equilibrated state your imagining never happens. This is like talking about when the ocean finally levels out. The ocean’s never going to level out. There will always be waves to surf.

Funny how every useful thing is no longer AI. Only the things that promise to be useful are AI.

Bruh. If AI is being taught to drive cars on the open road then I feel like cameras to detect what's in your fridge is pathetically easy in comparison and very much an AI task

What is an "ai task"? Their task is anything we assign them to do.

I think it would be a perfect function for ai. It’s more than just determining what is/is not in the fridge. Compiling the grocery list and determining which store has the best price for the goods would be great but also the ai knowing the mode of transportation as well as the weather and time of day would be critical as well to determine if it is worth going to multiple stores or not.

Why are so many of you trivializing the fact that providing perfectly formatted input data that having set logic figure something out is a VERY different thing than providing a firehose of data and then asking the software to make sense of it? Like have you been paying attention here at all?

AI could potentially do, “write me a python script that scrapes a website for grocery prices and compares them with another” or something.

In my experience, most things touted as AI are mostly rule-based or graph-based, with a sprinkling of some classification somewhere for a manager to get that sweet VC money.

That's not to say that this couldn't be done with AI, particularly one that is trained on top of a rule-based system to find the best options for given circumstances.

I also want a picture of this guy as an astronaut.

no, it doesn't. The prompter is the one "commissioning a painting". That does not make them an artist.