Intersectionality is the only rule
Intersectionality is the only rule
cross-posted from: https://kbin.social/m/my_mouldy_memes/t/310874
THE FUTURE OF FEMINISM
IS ONLY AS POWERFUL
AS THE FUTURE OF ANTI-RACISM
CLEO WADE
Why?
Honestly, I'm surprised that OP is being so obtuse about this. It's clear once you're familiar with intersectionality, but I think it could do well to be explained at least a little bit for those who aren't.
Essentially, the argument is that feminism, while a good force, needs anti-racism to maximize it's potential, just as it needs support for LGBTQ+ rights, since a lot of people are impacted by racism, homophobia, transphobia etc. Focusing largely on cis-het white middle-class women does help them, but we need those other elements too to be able to truly liberate people
Lol I'm not being obtuse, I'm trying to get them to admit the quiet part of their objection out loud
I personally don't see this as the strength of the intersectionality argument. To be clear, I am not saying that your point is incorrect. I agree with you completely.
My point is that to people not familiar with the concepts of intersectionality might find this to be a bit of a flimsy position. I could be wrong and I am willing to discuss why in more detail if you like.
I personally think the incompleteness argument is more persuasive. Proponents of individual movements are already aquatinted with the inequalities of their own individual movements and getting them to recognize what their movement lacks is easier than getting people to recognize that integrating other movements will produce better results.
It also, explicitly, forces people to "say the quiet part out loud". They don't get to hide behind platitudes. I.e. the j.k Rowlings of the feminist movements get to out themselves as terfs or racists that much easier. When you get someone to admit that there are more inequalities faced by black woman than either movement alone covers and their reaction isn't immediate recognition of the problem... You have found your problem.
Because it widely breaks down to the same sort of discrimination. Feminism without anti-racism means that the discrimination we see towards women won't disappear, it'll just be shifted towards people of color. How successful is your movement if all you did was export the bad shit to other people so it's not your problem anymore?
If the response to "Women shouldn't have to do housework" is "Yes! Juanita should do the housework!" Then something failed.
ITT: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/1575588
I've blocked the wilfully (if not maliciously) ignorant sealions, but since I'm on 196 and not my own page I can't fully ban them, so if you want to keep trying to educate them, be my guests more power to ya, but I'm out lol
This feels very white savior-y after checking out that wiki
Says the white person who upvoted pretty much every single comment opposing it (sorry, pretending to misunderstand).
You're the equivalent of an incel calling any man capable of respectful interaction with a woman a white knight (which they do not because they want to be able to respectfully interact, but because they see respet as transactional).
As always, once you peel back the pseudo intellectual bullshit, it's projection all the way down.
I'd like to thank the folks who invested their time in providing some really great answers, and also to point out how clearly uninterested the trolls were in actually understanding the meme, since they all seem to have vanished now they can no longer feign ignorance.
My wife used to never consider herself a feminist because of how white feminists simply do not care about the issues of black women. Back in the old site there were tons of discussions around r/blackladies about how subs like 2x were horrible because every single time a black woman would post about her issues she faced with racism all the white liberal women would come out and invalidate and question and deny their experiences. Feminism without anti racism is dead. Gloria Steinam realized this and I wish others paid attention.
I'm sorry to hear about her experience, but sadly not surprised - it isn't unique.
It's almost as if people who have reached the most basic level of "progressive" (aka the level that benefits them and not a single step beyond) think they're done, they can put their feet up and claim their cookies, but truth is that anti-racism, like anti-sexism and all the other anti-isms and -phobias, is an ongoing conscious effort that never stops, because oppression never stops (especially not once a single liberal has become "woke" - I despise the bastardisation of that word).
Privilege is a hell of a drug, no matter what side of the the political spectrum you fall on, and I agree - I wish more people paid attention.