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Trump dominates DeSantis in 2024 poll with third place way behind

www.axios.com

Just a moment...

This stood out to me:

The poll comes also as Republicans hold a slight partisan edge over Democrats, which shows that 45% of Americans are Republican or lean-Republican, while 42% are Democrat or lean-Democratic, per Gallup.

That's a change from previous years, including in 2022, when an equal number of Americans said they consider themself a Republican or a Democrat.

Democrats held a partisan edge over Republicans in 2020, 2018 and 2016, per the average of Gallup party affiliation polls from those years.

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I've been feeling like I've been living in a different reality for almost a decade at this point. The world just doesn't make fucking sense at all.
- I think it's pretty unreal that everything that has happened in the wake of the 2020 election and January 6th and Roe and so much more has apparently only cemented people in their partisanship. Absolutely wild.
  
  My theory is that many westerners in our current era have effectively replaced traditional religion with shallow political ideology.
  So instead of going to church so they can be surrounded by fellow believers and hear a sermon telling them that their faith is the one true way and that every evil is rightly blamed on the loathsome unbelievers and heretics, they go online so they can be surrounded by fellow believers and hear a sermon telling them that their faith is the one true way and that every evil is rightly blamed on the loathsome unbelievers and heretics.
  Seriously.
  
  Seems like past a certain point people will just keep doubling down because turning back would be admitting that you've been a fool.
  What is crazy about American politics is that "one side" is not just wrong or misguided, but very wrong, demonstrably so. So very wrong that it is insane from an outsider pespective to try to imagine by what wild loops of logic you could end up so very wrong considering that we're all supposed to be watching the same movie. You can point at basically anything, on any issue at random, and try to reverse engineer the Republican stance on an issue, and you will face absolutely paper thin, weak arguments, weak premises, unverifiable claims every time, about everything, and in a very unmistakable way that the line of reasoning is, again, not just a bit wrong, but very wrong.
  I knew a lot of people weren't very good at that abstract thinking stuff, making deliberate assumptions and at identifying signal from noise, but frankly, I did not expect almost half of the human race to be absolute morons when it comes to critical thinking. Good luck everyone.
- Yup. Before the Trump cult, I never truly understood how Hitler could have come to power. Now I totally get it.
  Trump's followers have stayed loyal to him through every deplorable moment: the pussy grabbing, mocking the disabled, the Muslim ban, kidnapping children at the border, collusion with Russia, extorting Ukraine, hush money to a porn star, stealing from charity, lying about an election, staging an insurrection, stealing classified documents, civil liability for rape ... Not to mention lying about covid, and botching the covid response and killing hundreds of thousands who could have lived, all while utterly destroying the economy.
- The internet and access to information immediately has really been a wild ride.
  In the beginning it was amazing though…lol
  
  Seems like the Information Age is Fermi’s Great Filter. Goodbye cruel world.
- Same, the world just seems to be getting more "confusing" and "hectic", not sure if it's just that as we get older and more "aware" we start to notice the things that don't seem to make sense around us.
  I try to think each generation before me had the same feeling, like the world is getting smaller and faster. And everyone is just trying to get by without regard for the people around them or future generations.
  
  I feel the same way, for what it's worth.
- Never should have opened that black sarcophagus.
- Most people feel this way because they spend their time in echo chambers and think everyone they disagree with is a nazi
What’s sad about this is that both of them are even candidates to begin with. America has become a huge joke, and I doubt I’ll ever be able to see it differently.
This country fuckin sucks
“In the half century of modern presidential primaries, no candidate who led his or her nearest rival by at least 20 points at this stage has ever lost a party nomination,” NYT’s Nate Cohn writes.
- That makes sense, it would probably be part of the reason why DeSantis's former backers are dropping off. He severely overestimated how much the average Conservative cares about "wokeness," and it bit him in the ass.
  
  Yeah it works on his base but when you enter the larger voting population, you need to bring more than a culture war.
  Although, I say that and how Trump is there bewilders me. I don't know how anybody is a republican, actually.
The hope is that Trump vs. DeSantis is a battle to death. Or Trump wins over DeSantis, and ends up behind bars where he belongs.
IIts like watching an alcoholic drink themselves to seath
- While screaming and beating their family.
  I've never seen a "Biden 2024 make conservatives cry again" bumper sticker, but that kind of toxicity is commonplace in the republican party
  
  It's all about winning.
The USA votes it’s president in with the Electoral College. Every poll talking about “voters … tie … blah …blah …blah” doesn’t mean shit, cause the voters don’t get to pick the president. Their representatives do. And guess what, their representatives don’t have to represent them. They can vote however they want. They can even get elected and then switch parties to the bad guys team. Also, fuck the GOP.
This poll is crap
As a Republican… we don’t like DeSantis because he’s a career politician. Republicans don’t like career politicians.
(Yes, that means we don’t like most republicans in office)
- Please don't act like your party or its voters have any logical consistency. We've been paying attention.
- I figured that would take a backseat to your love of attacking civil rights, harming minorities, and installing a Christian nationalist state. Trump did have some wins in that department, but DeSantis would certainly be more affective in that regards.
  
  I know y’all are a hive mind but that doesn’t mean everyone is
- Do you dislike career politicians because you think they are somehow more corruptible than your average Joe Schmoe whom you'd like to share a beer with? Or do you just hate the idea of government being run by people who know what the fuck they're doing?
  Trump was not a career politician and he did a horrible job. Maybe you should reevaluate your criteria for good leadership qualities.
  
  I mean why would it have to be some random person? That’s why we have elections supposedly
- Give one example of what the Republicans have done that you support
  
  I don’t support many republicans but I like that they don’t let emotion control their decisions
- Biden?
- As a former Republican, I call bullshit. The longest serving members of the Senate are Republicans, and one is your party's leader in the Senate. You guys love constantly re-electing your fossils just as much as the Dems do.
  
  Just because people are voting for them doesn’t necessarily mean they want them there. It just means they’d rather have a Republican there than a Democrat.
- I’m not trying to antagonize here, but what is it about a career politician that is negative? In any other field, longer experience is considered a good thing.
  From my perspective on the other side of the aisle, it seems like it’s the young, fresh politicians who are abandoning decorum and generally making as ass of themselves while the older generation (with some exceptions) are at least committed to the appearance of self control.
  
  Wouldn’t necessarily be a negative but there shouldn’t be multimillionaire politicians

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