Johnson: We're Not A Democracy, We're A "Biblical" Republic And Separation Of Church And State Isn't Real

This “not a democracy, a republic” crap is becoming more and more popular on the right. They’re not even trying to hide the authoritarianism and fascism any more. They’re now openly saying they don’t support democracy.

This is terrifying.

If the American electorate was slightly less stupid, I’d be ecstatic, because he made himself effectively kryptonite to reasonable, intelligent people with that statement.

Unfortunately, the American electorate is, on average, that stupid.

They treat the Constitution like they do their bible.

They don’t read it.

If they do read it, they just read the bits they agree with.

If they read the parts that don’t fit their desired narrative, they engage in mental gymnastics to reinterpret what was written to fit their desires.

Edit:

Jefferson's reply did not address their concerns about problems with state establishment of religion — only of establishment on the national level. The letter contains the phrase "wall of separation between church and state," which led to the short-hand for the Establishment Clause that we use today: "Separation of church and state."

Which led to the Establishment Clause…

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...

And also The point of Article 6 wherein no religious test is to be given to hold office.

Better?

I don't want to be that guy, but in fairness, ol' boy didn't actually say "biblical republic" (He just wheeled out the old "constitutional Republic" bit).

Doesn't make this any better, but I want to be sure we criticize with facts.

Over under on this guy being a pedophile?

Why is it that every time a dumbass steps down from being speaker, you guys manage to find an even bigger wanker? It's kinda impressive, honestly.

So this is the alternative history they want to write eh?

Clown, it was called the "Enlightenment Age" for a reason, people started breaking the chains of organized religion. Yes they were Christians, but they knew enough to not trust religion as a form of government.

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness in the material world are some of the founding principles, not "death, misery and suffering but maybe get lucky choosing the right god and you'll be rewarded with eternal paradise..."

If they founded the country on the Bible, we'd live in a theocracy with no elections and no opposition parties.

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White Taliban gonna Taliban

Christians always try to re-history the world in their favor. They are the most dishonest hypocritical fascists.
Then again, they stole most of what their religion allegedly stands for.

Separation of church and state is both the first amendment and a clause in article six of the constitution:

First Amendment:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

article six

no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

Thomas Jefferson's use of the words "separation of church and state" was to explain the purpose of the first amendment specifically but the actual legal text of the constitution is worded broadly enough to cover not only separation of church and state but separation of mosque/synagogue/ect and state rather than singling out Christianity.

It's in the First Amendment. It's more important than the Second Amendment. This guy is dangerous.

Well the good news is that just because this fuckbrain said it doesn't make it true.

When he won the spot he said “good to see our democracy working” or something like that. Fucking shameless lunatic

This is literally frightening to read that any American politician would think this. I don't see how any moderate R could support this train of thought.

Yo. Shit for brains. Here's the deal.

Get your god on the ballot. We'll vote for it. If it wins then maybe we'll give a listen to what it's got to say.

Otherwise keep that fucker OUT of our government.

Republicans (see, it's right there in the name) have been openly mocking people who think we live in a democracy for literally my entire life

Fucking excellent. I'm so sick of this ride. Life could be soooo good. Yet this shit exists

I see this nutjob has no idea what he's talking about and cannot fulfill the duties of his oath of office, so he should simply be removed from office, right? Right guys?

This guy is a fuck

Guillotine.

Hopefully this guy won't last past this election cycle.

Mike Johnson, the banalityest of evil.

It's a good thing a bunch of 6 year old children weren't murdered! Otherwise Republicans would have to pretend to care about the Constitution again!

What are the first ten word of the first amendment you hold so dearly when a minority asks you politely to be nice?

WHAT ARE THE FIRST TEN WORDS, MOTHERFUCKER!?

You know, we don’t live in a democracy because a democracy is two wolves and a lamb deciding what’s for dinner. OK?

This is already hideous christofascist shit, but the way it's framed sounds Reddity on top of that.

"Um, actually, hate to break it you, sorry to say this, but you're going to get shipped onto trains to special camps where you will be worked to death. If you don't like it, um, you could have chosen not to be among the untermensch. Sorry."

Is this real?

Ah, but with just one swing of this handy church-state separator...

I can't wait for my first chance to ask someone the following:

"I have three questions: 1. What does 'Democracy' mean? 2. What does 'Republic' mean? 3. What is your point?"

Wow. This jackoff needs to go right now. That didn't take long. Isn't about time for Mr. Smith to start indicting these fuckers for treason?

Good luck with that Johnson, you absolute fucking moron.

Let's see how far your far-right bullshit gets you.

The American people are sick and tired of your dysfunctional inability to get anything done.

Also , for fuck's sake!

I am not interested at having to let guys like this shove me around at literally any point in time for literally any reason, god or no

I’m seeing lots of ‘New Speaker is [insert whatever you want that’s against humans in general] (maybe a slight over-exaggeration, but it doesn’t feel like it) But can anyone ELI5 how you all ended up in this state, and how you get back out? What’s the impact of this individual being Speaker?

I hate how we only find out about these fuckshits AFTER they come to power.

Americans don't learn on their own faults, do they... After electing a complete idiot and criminal for a president, they give the house majority to the same party that chose Trump as their candidate (twice!) It's absolutely not surprising to me that the party that had Trump as its candidate twice, now appointed this moron as a speaker. But Americans could learn on their own faults...

Thomas Jefferson isn't real, ya'll.

I've read somewhere else a book recommendation, and after having read it I can recommend it to you:

"Christian Nation" is an alternate history novel by Frederick Rich about the USA turned into a wholly fanatical theocracy with the necessary amendments to the constitution for it to be lawful and everything else.

From the description in one of those online book-selling websites:

"They said what they would do, and we did not listen. Then they did what they said they would do."

So ends the first chapter of this brilliantly readable counterfactual novel, reminding us that America’s Christian fundamentalists have been consistently clear about their vision for a "Christian Nation" and dead serious about acquiring the political power to achieve it. When President McCain dies and Sarah Palin becomes president, the reader, along with the nation, stumbles down a terrifyingly credible path toward theocracy, realizing too late that the Christian right meant precisely what it said.

In the spirit of Philip Roth’s The Plot Against America, one of America’s foremost lawyers lays out in chilling detail what such a future might look like: constitutional protections dismantled; all aspects of life dominated by an authoritarian law called "The Blessing," enforced by a totally integrated digital world known as the "Purity Web." Readers will find themselves haunted by the questions the narrator struggles to answer in this fictional memoir: "What happened, why did it happen, how could it have happened?"

Edit: I've read it in epub format on my phone.

So, uh, what are you doing here then?

The house will decide your fate.

I AM the house!

Cool. Cool cool cool. Glad we've got this turd as speaker 🫠

The dream of the Islamic state came true

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This is a ... thing for him to say, but also everyone in this thread read both Losurdo's Liberalism: A Counter-History and Kruze's One Nation Under God

That is their origin but they mean different things.

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Always have been 🧑‍🚀

I think he just said the quiet bits out loud, and all the people saying otherwise are coping. This is what USA has always been in spirit, a sort of Christofascist empire.

I never thought I'd say this, but can we have Mitch McConnell back?

I better get my gay gangbang desires out of the way before this guy gets to say anything about it. I gotta ask my wife first. She said no. Again. Well I will ask her once more and if she says no again we'll see who gets the last laugh. She said no again. Either way, I'm going to keep voting for liberals. Because someone in this country must keep the gangbang lifestyle moving forward. More gay gangbang and less war!