Everything is so tiny

"Modern" UI design be like: fat paddings everywhere

Don't forget:
Massive fucking fonts
No visual separation between UI elements
Hijacked scrolling
Everything shoved into animated menus
One (1) context action in the bottom right
- Also, no right-click menus! You have to click on a three-dot icon at the side of that UI component
MOAR WHITESPACE

the edits to charlie kirk's face are so subtle these days, I can't tell if this is the original or has been slightly modified.

It had been so long since I'd seen his real face that I didn't know how it actually looked like anymore. I saw a clip of him a few days ago and thought 'oh, they aren't changing it that much'
- there was this real or fake quiz online that shows Kirk's face and you try to tell whether it's edited. it was really funny because it was actually hard to tell.

don't you just fucking love  
 
 
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(apologies to everyone whose device can't render HTML entities)

maybe this works on more devices?

paddings!
- That's not padding that's pre!
i was going to ask what it was supposed to look like, then i opened a reply text and all i see is nbsp;
- Unfortunately, beyond the standard Markdown elements, there is zero feature parity between various front-ends and their Markdown renderers.

Never got the Mac trend of not using your full screen. I get even less why Gnome copied it.

I'm not sure I understand... GTK can use full screens...
- This is what I am referring to. Many macOS people work like this:
- So can OSX for some time now it gives a full screen program it’s own workspace type screen
- Gnome largely refers to the software suite. gtk is included in the set of libraries anyone can use to make any software. So yes, anyone can use full screens when making software with gtk, but the pre-existing gnome software doesn't.
I think I missed this trend. I've been full-screening almost everything on macOS for years
Full screen covert thing. What is the point of that, if you have a big screen? macOS started years ago to put full screen apps into their own virtual desktop. Which is often extremely annoying. The only apps I use full screen are IDEs. It does not make any sense for web browsers or office apps.
My less than 10 minutes per month of MacOS (none of which is actually doing much with it) tells me it's because of the tiny buttons on the wrong (/s) side of the window that feel impossible to press and show an up or down button and you never know which is which.
I am sure that this is totally the perfect representation of the average macos user and not just me lol

Proper GTK4 adwaita apps don't do that. They scale really well on mobiles to desktops.

Counterargument:

Admittedly this is a chat app, so there's little to do. But still, it could stretch out a little bit more, maybe open the conversation info panel on the right
- That looks like it's just wrapping a WebView, is it not?
  It looks like the CSS is just capping the container class width at 1440px, which has nothing to do with GTK
- What is your monitor size?
  (Edit)
  You see the app's font size is on par with the text size of your KDE panel. If gnome increased it, it would look totally out of place.
  Also centering content is a valid design choice. Many websites do that on large/wide monitors. It improves readability. An example might be the design of pi-hole's UI.
  If readability is your issue on gnome on wide screen monitors you should also have issue on reading the time and date on the KDE panel as well.
- Sounds like a skills issue/design decision. Like the devs could do otherwise, they just didn't. There's nothing in GTK preventing this from working properly.
- Do you want the text to span unlimited pixels?
Even Gtk3 doesn't have that issue when properly coded.
And that's an issue. People also use non-GTK4 apps.

I enjoy using Gnome and don't really encounter any issues in my day to day use

(pls don't kill me :))

I don't like Gnome, but I am glad it works for you. At the end of the day Gnome is better than Windows, Mac, and CDE.
- CDE? First time hearing of this. Off to google. :)
I don't like using GNOME desktop or apps, but that's not because its bad or less capable for my usage. I just don't prefer their design philosophies. I'm grateful that it exists nonetheless. Linux desktop users are spoiled by how many great choices we have.
I used to be a GNOME fanatic a couple of years ago. I switched to KDE after I got tired of the perpetually broken state of extensions.
I’m still thankful for all the effort and commitment the GNOME devs have invested over the years though! It’s an excellent desktop environment!
- I went the opposite way. Wanted to like KDE, but found it too buggy and a bit inconsistent.
  On Gnome I use really minimal extensions and those get updated very quickly so it is no longer an issue for me. I also do Gnome Extension reviews so take from that what you will
True
Same for me!

Damn, did you enlarge Charlie's face for the meme? 😆

Friends don't let friends use GNOME

KDE4LYFE

Gnome does have a lot of strong points, I personally use both

Gnome apps running on my PC:

I don't use Gnome

Bottom text

Common gnome L

Why is Charlie Kirk’s face so big in this?

Time for a scrolling window manager

https://github.com/paperwm/PaperWM
We have this
- I love it

Okay so I remember seeing this exact post yesterday. Not that this is stolen, like this exact post. I read some of the comments and chuckled because tiny face Charlie Kirk is funny. I saw a picture of him on a video this morning and never realized that HIS FACE IS ACTUALLY KINDA LIKE THAT WHY IS IT SO SMALL AND CENTERED.

Holy fuck, you are right. This is from his Wikipedia page:

This is why I don't use GNOME apps on a tiling WM. They always have an absurd amount of padding.

I don't mean to be pedantic, but why do people shit on DEs? I don't like KDE, but I'll never say an ill word about it. The whole point of Linux and open source in general is that we have choice. If you don't like gnome, that's fine, move along to your interface of choice. Come on, there are better things to argue about.

It's never about the DE's themselves, it's about the devs.
KDE's devs are just focused on making a cool desktop environment with many features. It's a little buggy and has some weird design decisions, but whatever, no biggie.
GNOME devs deliberately sabbotage existing linux standards in attemps to take control over desktop linux. Examples: client-side decorations, client-side shadows, systray fiasco.
This is not a question of personal preference. It's a question of keeping desktop linux free, fair, and accessible for everyone.
- You're feeding the fire. Just use what you like and let the other DEs do their thing. You can totally exist without shitting on what other people prefer.
I interpret this being more about how GNOME apps function in general, also on other desktops, which is fair criticism.
- That's fine, move along. No need to crap on the hard work of the OSS people that work on anything.

Do you have an example?

Yes: https://feddit.it/comment/14628419
- "Awesome UI"

Can somebody tell me how to change that in Mint Cinnamon? I really don't like the padded bar at the top of every window.

I got a mate who started with Linux super recently, I can ask him if he ever figures it out. I'd love to help, but I'm an arch boy and everything with a GUI is unironically more difficult for me, I shit you not lmao (and also don't feel like learning how to manouver Mint either, sorry)

I'm having this problem on Android rn. Coming from iOS, the content density is just super low, and no amount of tweaking display/font size will fix it 🙁

My screen is 50% padding now 🤷🏻‍♀️

Also, non-GTK non-shitwaita apps on gnome.

That's UI design, a dark art mere mortals like you and me won't ever understand.

Huh, this sort of issue is what made me leave KDE in the first place. Haven't had such problems on gnome.