Hexbear: Not pro-LGBTQ+, the Israel of Lemmy instances
Hexbear: Not pro-LGBTQ+, the Israel of Lemmy instances
Hexbear: Not pro-LGBTQ+, the Israel of Lemmy instances
The most aggravating thing about these is that they keep implying hexbear is a straight site that made the decision to let us be here. When they make detached from reality insults like hexchan or israel it’s easy to say ‘lol, no’. But I hate that they’re also trying to smuggle in the idea that of course it’s the straight people that are in charge of this website. Probably without even realizing it.
Personally I prefer the ones where they just call us fake queers.
straights are merely tolerated on Hexbear
I yearn for the moment I get banned for just being a cis white male.
You wouldn't believe some of the shit they're making up about us on the lemmyverse now that we aren't there to contradict it. According to several posts I've seen we're literal nazis who throw up swastikas for fun and hate trans people. There's been a telephone game of uncharitable interpretations and now a good percent of users have only heard about us this way and have lumped us in with 4channers such that they think we're literal nazis.
I've tried to push back against some of it in the most gentle "civil" way and gotten banned for "subverting defederation" I guess I'm not allowed to have two accounts on the lemmyverse 🤷
I’ve tried to push back against some of it in the most gentle “civil” way and gotten banned for “subverting defederation” I guess I’m not allowed to have two accounts on the lemmyverse 🤷
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I’ve tried to push back against some of it in the most gentle “civil” way and gotten banned for “subverting defederation” I guess I’m not allowed to have two accounts on the lemmyverse 🤷
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Anyone realize having individualist "empowering" 'filter out any user or community you want' webforum federation might just be hyper-capitalist choicemongering and not a communist way to build a website yet?
Memories of the great purge years back when we added pronouns lol
So many assholes outing themselves and getting banned
They should respectably call us Hex-san.
How do people expect to be taken seriously while blatantly lying about ban reasons when the mod log is public?
Oh look, it was not banned for saying gender-neutral pronouns exist.
omfg this is dronerights? wild. guess its going on a chaser arc
It originally signed up with the above username and was mad about having to change names.
The mod log should be pinned to the front page. And the post should be titled: “If you’re from another instance trying to find proof that your users were mistreated by evil tankies, please search their username in this log.”
“More importantly they’re also jerks”
More importantly? Really? That’s more important to you than the alleged transphobia?
They come from the Maher-xist school of thought, where being rude is only allowed when you're punching down.
Hexbear's gone from preying on LGBTQ minorities to a much more disturbing, sensitive target: Me
Pretending to be pro-LGBT+ to...huh? Why are libs this insane? They genuinely can't comprehend that people to the left of them exist
Lmao, this person again. The minute it started posting on Hexbear after getting banned on blahaj.zone, I knew we were dealing with some sort of wrecker/troll.
Gender neutral pronouns exist.
There. I said it. Ban me you cowards.
its also fucking hilarious because we have pronoun selection on account creation. its right there.
Pronoun selection that includes several clearly neutral pronouns like they/them and it/its (the latter of which this user used!)
i was the mod who banned them. i did it because they are Transgendered. I love HAMAS, and Putin’s peanus is actually in my mouth erect right now (i am fellating Vladimir Putin)
same
lmao motherfuckers just be lying out there
the question is is it lying or is it just so spectacularly stupid that someone telling it "hey Reddit creep, your username is innappropriate" and assumed it was because it mentions nonbinary people.
e:prnos
The "pretending to be pro-LGBTQ+ just to get more commies" narrative about y'all will never not be fucking hilarious to me.
They're the Israel of lemmy instances
im really not even angry, this is fucking beautiful
like what does that even mean? how did your brain make such a leap that it could have crossed the grand canyon? I really keep trying to respect some liberals but a bunch of their ideology boils down to "I don't like thing, so it is bad, and this bad thing is also every other bad thing" and then pretend they've unlocked the secret to the goddamn universe.
pretty sure it is just a professional troll. finds it fun for some bizarre reason
Imma take a look
Not surprising. Being trans feels a lot like being straight.
I hope they mean this in like a very very good way
Grandma doesn’t have a gender and doesn’t realise why people who have genders think they’re important. She’d be equally happy identifying as a man and she doesn’t realise that’s unusual.
okay please explain to me what this means I legit am just ????ing at this right now
Hexbear is transphobic. They harassed me the whole time I was there
I bet my life savings they were saying dumb libshit or discriminatory bullshit and high tailed it because they got rightly dunked for it
oh god they mainly post on beehaw, Lemmygrad basically created that community after a bunch of lemmy gusanos raged that their terminal liberalism got absolutely torn to shreds by the effortposting gods.
Okay they seem to be completely genuine too, because they have good takes mixed in with it. Critical support to them dragging CookieJarObserver (some of you remember this "I AM THE OBSERVER" fucking weirdo) through shit on Israel.
Now that i've looked through, you could be right, because they have hexbear takes everywhere besides when they're hating on hexbear, okay and some libshit about finding 'unbiased leftist sources'
my real contention is finding out their posting on hexbear, what were they arguing about. Give it to us you nerd, I dare you!
I'm going to be on the side of 'they're just really libshit' because its just too authentic
like what does that even mean?
It's my great honor to notify you that you personally have received a reply by DroneRights in its own self-created subcomm over on lemm.ee - Here you go
I randomly saw it on an alt account and don't think you got the ping, so
Between the instance where people declare their pronouns next to their username and a chaser, I don't know who to believe. What a dilemma.
it's a deliberate tactic to scare people from coming here. they're shameless liars.
Especially since a colossal portion of our userbase falls under the alphabet mafia.
The MSS, FSB, SVR, GRU, and so on.
Nazis and neoliberals will lie through their teeth if they think it benefits them. And they will back each other up in those lies whenever they think it benefits them.
Truth is not important. If it hurts their political enemy they will do it.
You say that, but I know those Hexbear types. They may say they're inclusive and run a largely trans instance that actively bans transphobic users and language, sure. Up to and including the day of revolution they'll probably insist they support LGBTQIA rights, fight for them even. But trust me they're faking it
Getting to triple-dip into xiyuan, putinrubles, and sorosbucks was too tempting. Hexbear only accepts trans communists, so that’s what I became. While taking medical transition steps isn’t necessary to be trans, it helped with getting into character. Some people claim it’s “gender euphoria” but I attribute it to the satisfaction of committing to the bit to mislead the libs. I got along well with another pretend trans poster, and the DMs turned into a full-blow performative t4t relationship. Eventually we moved in together to stretch the botmoney further. We started a family to pass on the communist bit to a new generation. We never stopped posting. 4 kids and 12 grandchildren later, A wrecker I could not defeat came for me. Cancer. In hospice, surrounded by my loved ones, chosen family, and circle of friends, they asked me what final wisdom I wanted to pass on before handing me the morphine button.
“Haha, you all fell for it you rubes! I was faking it this whole time. I wasn’t actually fighting for the liberation of marginalised people and the working class. I hate you all!”
I mash the button while holding my partner’s hand, who congratulates me on the historic bit but calls me a lib for ruining kayfabe. I die in shame.
...but the MOMENT THEY TAKE POWER- (Horseshoe theory, paradox of power nonsense, Stalin reference etc.)
more fun from the poster in chief.
Oh no! A controversial gender!? My day is absolutely ruined and now I hate everybody that isn't white straight and cis.
I have decided to fuel up my paraglider and join Hamas.
The whole "pretending to be LGBTQ-friendly" accusation with such conviction made absolutely no sense to me until I think it kind of clicked for me where they might be coming from. I think the origin of that belief isn't really actual ignorance but instead a partial understanding of their own liberal politics projected onto us.
Imagine you're a lib and you genuinely want queer people to have somewhat better lives in a world that is largely hostile to them. Liberal democracy only allows the continued existence of capitalism and the order that hurts LGBTQ people in the first place. So your only actual option within that system is to put your support behind a political entity that acts like it's the protector of marginalized people when it's convenient and reinforces systems and narratives of oppression when it's not. No matter how much you make LGBTQ rights a personal value of yours or how often you consume media that tells you how important the issue is to your chosen political entity, there will always be a rift between what you think is right and important and what the people you support actually bother doing about it.
On the other hand, imagine you're a lib who doesn't actually care about LGBTQ issues but you're also not frothing at the mouth thinking about two dudes making out. To you the whole issue has always been nothing but a cultural signifier of other values or if your brainworms are powerful enough it's a tribal team sports thing. Either way, if you have any self awareness you also at least partially understand that queer people are just the ball in a game of liberal politics.
For both of those hypothetical libs it's not a big step at all to see someone opposing their own politics and assume that our support for queer people is fake, because if you take the liberal world view for granted that's the only thing that DOES make sense.
In conclusion, this comment was mostly me trying to call people libs twiceIt's always kind of fun go detective mode
and figure out why they actually got bannedThere were a couple posts that could be taken as "my gender is helicopter" if you weren't familiar with the user. I didn't agree with the ban but I understood it. DroneRights uses it/its pronouns FTR
The Hexbear Defence Force is the most civilised army in the world and takes the utmost care to protect civilians. Those killed in the carpet bombing of the lib server farm had all been warned and knew that anybody still there would be considered terrorists.
Hexbear has a right to exist
Denying Hexbear's right to exist and defend itself is one of the most disgusting forms of anti-ursinism.
What the fuck is going on. Pinkwashing? This place has been a bastion of acceptance since day 1. We've stumbled a few times but who hasn't.
no but actually trans acceptance is transpobia, tankie
authoritarian owned
not really pro-LGBTQ.
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holy shit
is so fucking goodBoykisser????
I want to pinch his cheeks
Holy shit is that dronerights?
E: it is fucking dronerights. Hell yeah lil buddy, get em!
You mean the person who tried to push the idea that an actual antisocial pathological personality disorder (narcissistic personality disorder), is a neurodivergence like ADHD or ASD? Yep, the literal personality/personification of individualism that doesn't reguard others is something that it believes shouldn't be maligned. I feel for people that have these types of disorders, they don't have the ability to understand what is problematic about their behavior, but it is exactly this and the fact that it hurts others that makes it a pathology.
i mean yeah i generally view it as ND, in particular the use of pathological personality diagnoses by the carceral state to justify longer sentencing for minorities have me view it as politically aligned with other ND movements where diagnosis is used to revoke autonomy. it's better to focus on harm actually done rather than this moralizing belief in some inherent evilness in someone's soul or something. a lot of autistic liberation has an adverserial relationship with diagnosis in general, I would generally advise people to be skeptical of a diagnosis created on the assumption there exists such a thing as genetic basis for a born criminal. in particular the moralization of not having empathy fucks over a lot of autistic people and is a common complaint in autistic circles, that hyperempathetic autistics throw other autistics under the bus by presenting themselves as morally superior. not having the physiological empathy response does not inherently make you a murderer, it means it takes more effort to understand someone else on an intellectual level.
not that I would then argue you're ableist, because I think there is an issue where a lot of leftist spaces moralize disagreement and massively overescalate shit.
I'm not so sure about this take autism can also result in anti-social behaviour for example and that's neurodivergence
lib.lgbt
Well the instance name sure ain't wrong.
stands for
Let’s Glorify Biden Together
Lmao that's really good
lib.lgbt 🤣 theyre really spelling it out for us
lib dot lgbt is positive and welcoming lemmy community with a particular focus on LGBT people and their allies. We welcome queers of all stripes, and our non-queer friends of all kinds!
i bet they dont allow the socialist majority of trans people tho, and are a big fan of chasers (as evidenced by the username)
also they have like no active users. their local posts are nearly nonexistent. and of course are making up insane bullshit about the instance with the most trans people in it
how do they come up with this stuff? i’m genuinely curious how they invent such ludicrous hexbear facts
???? I know, we kicked out the dipshits that were so hung up on pronouns. We had so many neo pronouns and gender neutral ones... I just don't know what it could possibly mean. Unless it got banned for some other shit or are just totally making it up? (updated pronouns based on its account in the modlog lol)
its dronerights, the return
From the modlog, I'm almost certain this is what it meant. There's a lot of transphobes who just want to they/them everyone so they don't have to actually use peoples' pronouns
They get mad at our pronouns, then say we're transphobes
real
hours rngonna need to start studying this, might be a new disease
:LIB:
How is it the same goddamn thing every timeDronerights is replying to this thread on its ee account but none of you can see it because of them being banned.
E: pronouns!
salvation is at hand
Pretty sure dronerghts's pronouns were it its. Let's not misgender even enbyphobic weirdos.
Fixed, ty!
The admin of lib.lgbt has no problems with their username being that?
considering he responded to it like four times, seems so
transing my gender but not because I'm trans or anything, just to lure in queer people
that sounds kinda gay ngl
Why would an anti LGBT group want lots of support from LGBT+ members? Seems like an easy way to fall apart once you let the mask slip and you won't have any backup because all the other anti LGBT people would have left.
wtf does "the Israel of Lemmy" instances mean?
Given the claim of "pinkwashing" I think they're saying that we use a veneer of LGBT support to couch our horrible evil communist views. This is similar to how Israel claims to be pro-LGBT while committing genocide etc.
In reality their brain is just broken and they refuse to accept that LGBT people could be to the left of them.
In this case probably something antisemitic for having trans Jewish admins removing comments and banning people.
With that username they are definitely a creep
its literally dronerights
I seriously can't with these dorks existing, like are we really in the same reality? And I mean the modlog speaks for itself, they weren't banned for what they say they were.
Like they need to engage more with us to know us before talking shit, but I guess some people are just they petty.
Jesus.
Take your bets folks, extraordinarily stupid or extraordinarily dishonest.
porque no los dos
lol, lmao
I had DroneRights flagged as a wrecker from the very beginning. Those of us who voiced our concerns were at first decried as ableists. Vindication feels good.
Now the double-wreckening as dronerights goes back to Blåhaj.zone 196 to stir up drama in reverse.
While simultaneously talking shit about Ada the Blåhaj admin on lemm.ee
Gotta respect the hustle
everyone has been invited by the user dronerights to have conversations with the user dronerights on the ee DroneRights comm.
have a nice monday!
E: I do not recommend or endorse this option, but when u have the opportunity to write that combination of words u gotta take it.
NPD is also different to ASPD. It's often inflicted on someone by their upbringing.
How nice of DroneRights! I'm sure they'll be very receptive, since their whole daily schedule is seemingly dedicated to this
Seems like such a waste of time and effort to me. I think at this point it's probably best to just ignore it instead of fueling its narcissism.
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This bit is both highly problematic and also weirdly holds up. Still don't like comparing a bunch of (mostly) white western nerds to Palestinians fighting for their actual existence
Yeah, wasn’t intended to imply all that, so better off deleted.
dont delete your comment. it's okay to think stuff that's wrong or misguided.
do consider this: it's the 1970s in america, a woman walks by a construction site and is subjected to catcalls and misogynistic language. why is this bad?
same time, same place, a man coding gay walks by and is subjected to homophobia and slurs. why is this bad?
now fast forward to now, a person makes a username asking to see nude fat nonbinary people. why is this bad?
There are lots of good places to be horny, like gay bars. Hexbear has had an anti-horniness culture for a long time and it isn't just for queer people.
Like I remember a while back we had some wrecker calling the volcel police homophobic, when really we just don't want people bringing the horniness here.
yeah it's not that we think sex is bad just do it elsewhere. As true here as it was when I was getting kicked out of the public library
The VOLCEL POLICE are on the scene! PLEASE KEEP YOUR VITAL ESSENCES TO YOURSELVES AT ALL TIMES.
نحن شرطة VolCel.بناءا على تعليمات الهيئة لترويج لألعاب الفيديو و النهي عن الجنس نرجوا الإبتعاد عن أي أفكار جنسية و الحفاظ على حيواناتكم المنويَّة حتى يوم الحساب. اتقوا الله، إنك لا تراه لكنه يراك.