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Don't do too much, or you will waste time and efforts

You can of course plan the big lines of the campaign, but the more precise you get and far ahead of the present, the more you will either lose or railroad to not lose. Both suck

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  • You know the famous quote?

    Plans are worthless. Planning is everything.

  • What is this word planning?

    • It's that thing you do in the shower the night before the session and forget to write down "but it'll be fine" and then you forgot half of it and only remember the dumb voice you gave the shop keeper. That, plus those notes you wrote down and you're sure you knew what you had in mind but now you're not sure what "damp lich" was supposed to mean.

  • I think the player types is important.

    I've had players who will engage with stuff and make good things happen, and then I don't need to play very much. They'll see the awkward tavernkeeper and the village blacksmith and run cheering into ROM COM TIME. Can't really plan for that.

    But I've also had players who are just wallflowers. They don't take initiative. They don't push for their own goals. They're timid and easily discouraged. "The tavern keeper doesn't want to give you the staff. It was his grandfather's, he says, and he doesn't want to hand it out to just anyway." "Uhh.. uh.. ok.. i don't know what to do. Can I charm person him?" "You can, but that's an escalation and people will be mad if they find out." "Oh nevermind I don't know what to do."

    Meanwhile the other party got the staff by getting him and the blacksmith to finally go out on a date, and now they're all on great terms.

    The timid party needs more planning (but still only a session or two in advance) because otherwise they're going to just stall out and get frustrated.

    Maybe one day I'll have a group that's consistently engaged, thinks about the game between sessions, and knows the rules of the game reasonably well.

  • Enlightened DMing is to simply set up all the pieces of the BBEG's plan on the world stage in your head or documents, and throw the players at it. Obviously, ensure that the plan is something the players have enough tools and resources to overcome, and prepare for what their decisions will likely guide them towards in the next session, but...

    Any old video game can run you through a story. Few video games give players choices. And no video game can be truly derailed.

    Understanding that getting derailed is arguably the entire point of DnD, is DM Ascension.

    • Getting derailed is easy. Making it fun for everyone DM include is the challenge. That is both a skill, luck, and mental energy that not everyone can or want to put in sometimes.

      But I am not agreeing with the point of dnd. The point is the exact same as videogames, other ttrpg games, other TT games period. Having fun. Its really as simple as that. Which is why everyone should aim to do something they have fun with.

      Just saying thought. If derailing the DM is the fun of a player, it sounds more like belonging to a horror story.

      • Yeah, there's a fine line here. The DM improvising something whimsical and funny on the spot can be enjoyable to everyone, but if the party is going out of their way to do their absolute best to derail and force DM to waste any and all prepared material they're just dicks. The DM is still a player in the game doing it have fun too and doesn't owe you a campaign that bends to all whims of the party without restraint.

        Also, a good lesson for GMs is to try and write any prepared material in a way that allows it to later be reused if players manage to miss it. Just because the party didn't investigate that one cave with a goblin ambush in it doesn't mean they can't run into a goblin ambush later down the line somewhere entirely different.

  • The only way I'm planning 3 sessions in advance (beyond very broad strokes) is if the players have spent the entire session being unjustifiably paranoid of a random NPC who was never meant to be more than set dressing, rather than exploring what is presently prepared for them, hence what I actually meant to happen gets pushed back. So, all the time.

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