Grain entrapment is scary.

I used to work for a big grain company for a short period of time. They expected people to go walk on that sometimes. I know of 2 deaths while I was there.
- year, country?

I live in a town surrounded by a lot of farms. This does happen on occasion.

So what do you do in this situation that you’ve fallen in to grain?
I imagine you might still be able to breath if you can keep your mouth covered.
Edit: I’m getting downvoted because I’m not familiar with grain suffocation? Ok there. 🙄
Edit again: oh they stopped. Thanks for not being jerks, everyone!
- Not much. You really shouldn't be going into grain bins, and if you you do get stuck you should call for help and shut off anything that's making the grain move. If you have to go into the bin for some reason, there should be someone outside with you and you should have a safety rope to help pull you out. Covering your mouth won't help for long if at all. Someone will need to put up fans to ventilate the bin. You will suffocate in a grain bin and I've lost friends who went into bins.
  https://www.ndsu.edu/agriculture/ag-hub/publications/caught-in-grain
- Nope. There's no way for air to get down there. It doesn't filter through the grain. If it did, moisture would get in too.
  If they don't get you out quickly, you suffocate.
- Every once in a while you read a story of someone that survived, it's usually because they had a mask of some sort that filtered enough air through the grain so they could breathe. Like this guy: https://www.agweb.com/news/livestock/pork/descent-hell-farmer-escapes-corn-tomb-death
  Sounds horrible!
- Can't remember the video where I saw this (maybe smarter every day?) but if you're not completely submerged they can use a tube/barrell they shove down around you and start scooping it out to release you.
- Most important thing is to swim with the grain instead of against if otherwise you’ll drown. Thus the saying about “going against the grain”
- downvoting isn't a sign of hate, but people ranking down a wrong statement.
  maybe you'd rather more disinformation all over Lemmy?

There was a guy who got stuck in his grain silo and before calling authorities he made a tiktok that showed him sinking every time he took a breath or moved in anyway. He was surprisingly calm but you could hear panic slowly wave over him as he spoke about how fucked he was. He was later rescued alive and made a very short video saying he survived.

Wouldn’t you want literally anyone there while doing that, or rig up some rope or something to help not die?

Growing up in a rural farm area, this was not an entirely unusual thing to occur. That always surprised me a little, seeing that it was talked about regularly and a known hazard. It was known well enough that, though I was never a part of the agricultural crowd, I knew the danger silos posed.

I grew up in a dairy farming community, drowning in slurry pits was the way to go there. Scared me witless as a kid.

Do not let a woman who decorates her buttocks deceive you, By wily coaxing, for she is after your granary;

Apple bottom jeans

Great, now I'm thinking about and dreading the existence of grain voids.

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This is my kind of joke lmao
You won't BLEVE what can happen on the farm!

Perfect reminder for you to watch Barry if you haven't yet.

A quiet place is also relevant to grain facts
That scene fucked me up. I couldn’t lift my jaw off the ground for maybe a solid hour.
Wasn't there a plot point like that in that film about the Australian dressmaker?
Bah-rie

https://youtu.be/Q8I1ImzoXvU?si=gH3eOVMcOlHQcbj9

This is simultaneously horrifying and hilarious.
So uhhhhh how much pigeon per pound of flour we talkin' here
- In some cases it's a short trip through an auger and they can survive just being transported from what I've been told.
Extra protein content in this batch of flour
- Lol wait until you find out the allowable big content in grain and other foods
So many of them with their wings in weird positions that it must hurt... Then there's others just walking right in like it's a portal. I'm hoping it's not a grinder but just going to a truck or screw conveyer and the birds are (mostly) ok
Can I say I love that last pigeon just walking casually into the great unknown that is that grain sinkhole like it's done with its pigeony existence without it looking like I'm a psychopath?
Cause boy that one just strolled in there.

"This is my silo. My farm. My grains."

There are many grains like this grain but this grain is .... now in my lungs.
- *RADIOACTIVE BREATHE IN SFX

Thank you for this info, I will no longer skinny dip in grain silos.

What?

In a grain silo, the top layer may appear hard and it may appear that everything is solid below you. However, there could be voids and the grain underneath is still loose. You can easily break through, get trapped, and suffocate in grain. This image actually appears to be from the wikipedia I came to link, heh: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grainentrapment
- It can also explode
It only takes two seconds to three seconds to become helpless in flowing grain
- IT ONLY TAKES TWO SECONDS TO BECOME HELPLESS IN FLOWING GRAIN
It's a real thing.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grain_entrapment
No pain, no grain
- No grain no gain

New irrational fear unlocked.

It's not irrational. Grain silos are fucking scary. People die all the time. Grain is also very flammable.
- Right? Like it's irrational if you don't live or work near a farm but if you do... Man you hear about silo deaths way to often, children being one of the worst ones you see in the news
- Ain't just flammable. Flour is often combustible and silos often explode.

This drove me bonkers in that movie "A Quiet Place". The physics of the grain were constantly changing on them, at first they were sinking, then the alien was on it fine, then they were on it fine, then they were sinking. It was a debacle and it may have bothered me more than it should have due to the dozens of other plot holes and innacuracies in the movie.

this post gives me anxiety lol

Wouldnt a net across say 5' from max full severely hinder grain-drownings?

And obstruct grain flow and eventually rip off, entangle and completely obstruct, if not fuck your machinery down the process chain.
The correct solution is wearing a security harness with a cable secured to a hook and having a second person outside the dangerous area to provide help and call for more help.
And i would be suprised if that isnt mandated by law or binding security standards already. Deadly incidents at grain silos, manure bunkers and so on are always the result of violating already existing security practices.

Void -->

Me wanting to name the show where this was relevant but doing so would be a spoiler to those who havent yet seen it

!Barry?!<

Why can't we make a different kind of container to hold grain? Why does it have to be shaped this way?

It works by gravity, so long and tall is in.
We can and do. Some of them a rectangular or square with trapezoids on the bottom.
Cylinders are strong and make it easy to support the weight, and if you stack it tall it can just be poured into whatever you use to ship it.
Heavy machinery is cheaper now than it was in the past, so if we need to use a different shaped container and use machines to get stuff out, they can do that now without it being too expensive.
All things being equal, people will use the cheapest effective solution. Other form factors aren't particularly safer or anything.