People still on Reddit: How is the narrative of the Israeli/Palestine conflict playing out?
People still on Reddit: How is the narrative of the Israeli/Palestine conflict playing out?
Just curious what the hive mind over there is thinking. I used to lurk Reddit before I switched to Lemmy during the mass exodus.
I’ve really just been getting most of my news from Lemmy these days and not paying much attention to MSM. Obviously the things I’m reading here sounds like Isreal is commuting war crimes with their amped up response from the original attack.
Curious if there’s any kind of divide on Reddit regarding the conflict.
The news subreddit is filled with people who are trying to force a black-and-white, "If you criticize A then you must support B" view onto the whole conflict. Reddit was never exactly known for nuance, but it's gotten worse since Rexit.
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It appears to be more siloed, more pro Israel stuff there at the start. Now more subreddits are pushing in of one thing or the other despite not being the subject of the subreddit. I was actually appalled when I went there after the first two days of the attack, it was a fucking cluster fuck of bloodlust against palestine.
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They've been getting more frequent or I've been noticing them more
Well Palestine does hate women and lgbtq people, so that checks out. What I don't get is why the lemmy hivemind supports them.
I don't support Palestine, I support their basic human rights so I'm against them getting obliterated with bombs. Plus, there are more layers to what Israel is doing to palestinians specifically in the West Bank and then they come to us crying playing the victim. Israel wants to be a colonial power, subjugating the Palestinian people, murdering their people, stealing their land. That's fine! Just don't come and bitch at me when those people hate you and want to kill you, and dont call me antisemitic when I ask you to fuck off. It's pretty simple.
I argue with everyone because this conflict is such a long and complex history that:
— everyone wants to consider a vs b, but what about c? We really need to consider three sides
-- there’s plenty of history of violence on both sides so your result may differ based on your starting point
Same. They’ve had 80 years to take the anti-gay laws off the books and have declined to do so.
Pretty much the same. Conservative subreddits are pro-Israel, most other subeddits have pro-Palestinian sentiment. Haven't seen any pro-Hamas stuff.
/r/military is making fun of Hamas
Well I think Lemmy World, at least before lemeegrad was defederated from world, had a lot more socialist/marxist types being very vocal in the discourse trying to spin it in that angle. Also weird news sources seemed to be popping up a bit more in lemmy from al jazeera, turkey state media, and other socialist web sites. But I'm not sure if that is just because of how lemmy has less content so lower traffic stuff gets put up on my feed faster than reddit where I still have a lot of subs and a lot more content flowing.
When it comes to comments, both are similar in that it's hard to have a moderate take that:
- Israel has justification and responsibility to go after Hamas in response to the massacre.
- Israel should be measured in their response to avoid civilian death, but they likely won't.
Wait, you saw actual socialists on Lemmygrad? My experience with them leaving comments outside their instance was fascists masquerading as communists, and it left a sour taste in my mouth.
The one sub I still check couldn't give a fuck. It's supposed to be a support group, but they tend to focus on news local to a specific area and that area is not Palestine.
Numerous subs are openly supporting terrorist groups and calling for genocide and the admins are doing nothing. Its getting ugly.