Hexbear totally isn't brigading people, its just federation bro!
Hexbear totally isn't brigading people, its just federation bro!
...right. https://lemm.ee/post/64989079
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Do these self proclaimed anti-imperialists have any self awareness about the fact they are organising brigades of denial of imperialist actions (like the Uyghur genocide)?
Seeing this stuff makes me want to scream
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What does brigading mean?
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Similar to review bombing, it means someone posts a link to another post, typically shortly after it is posted, and say "Look at this post, it is bad lol" in a community with the implication that your like-minded friends in that community will also dislike and downvote it, then the entire community starts clicking on the link to downvote it, resulting in rapid, coordinated downvoting that completely outpaces any chance of normal, organic voting and discovery so the post gets buried in the algorithm, which they celebrate because they've "owned the libs" or whatever.
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On reddit, if a popular subreddit linked to a post with a dissenting opinion, with the intention of flooding the comments and downvoting the people there.
Its the same here on lemmy.
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Someone should post the obligatory:
#NotYourPersonalArmy or #NoBolshevismHere
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Is hexbear like ml too? Iβm new here
hexbear is .ml but worse,
They have a history of brigading threads critical of them or tankies, then say its not brigading, as they are just federating.
Hexbear is defederated on most servers, not mine (I'm usually fine with this) but .ml is left alone since it has a lot of the official lemmy communities.
As I recall they have a comm called 'slop' that's basically a drop point for it. As one post I recall mentioned 'put (random tankie anti-west slurs) posts in '"slop'" and whatever happens, happens'
I haven't bothered to defed them or the other two myself either, in some part because it's funny to scrap with them, plus it's a pretty pointless exercise if they just create alts on other servers.
They're defederated from a couple of the larger servers and a few of the smaller ones.
https://federation-checker.vercel.app/
EDIT: It could be that this list is incomplete or something went wonky when they went through their domain drama. Looking around some of the larger servers hexbear.net is on the blocked list, but that isn't being reflected on the tool linked above. Some servers are defederated from either side but certainly not most.
No, it's worse.
The main problem with .ml is that it pretends to be a legitimate server, for generic use. This means that there is some normal communities there that get censored as a result, and its not usually defederated because they have the official lemmy communities.
Hexbear was an independent site before it ever federated, so it has a very tight-knit community of like-minded users. There are lots of in-jokes and memes that only make sense to other Hexbear users. When it began federating, lots of federated users ended up clashing with them. And since Hexbear tends to be very tight-knit, this meant that getting into an argument with one Hexbear user usually meant getting dogpiled by a dozen others. Even just commenting about it here will likely have a few Hexbear users popping in to throw around the tankie or liberal accusation.
They also have a history of brigading smaller instances, and the mods/admins of Hexbear tend to take a laissez-faire approach to moderating posts on external instances. Basically, the Hexbear admins tend to use the βmoderating communities is the individual moderatorsβ job. We take care of our own instance; you should handle yoursβ stance. Which means mods and admins on federated instances often ended up playing whack-a-mole with Hexbear users, whose admins refused to take action unless it was posts on Hexbear.
And yeah, the Hexbear mods+admins tend to be pretty heavy-handed with non-communist posts, which leads to a lot of the same complaints that people have about .ml. Even if the individual users are cordial, the fact that dissent is quickly squashed means thereβs only room for one prevailing mindset; The nail that sticks out gets hammered down, so Hexbear users tend to fall in line or leave for other instances pretty quickly.