Movie idea
Movie idea
Movie idea
The face that shot a hundred Nazis.
16-year-old seduces adult nazi to shoot him in the woods during military occupation is slightly less family friendly than Spiderman, at least from what I remember about Spiderman
At least, it would have been a nice side plot in "Inglorious Basterds".
Oooh, a reference to her, even in passing, would've been neat.
"The Nazi bastards are on high alert. Soldiers keep going into the woods to bang some broad and end up banged themselves. Stupid fuckers keep going out there. I guess their dicks override orders"
I would argue that it is very family friendly if you aren't a Nazi.
still not exactly the kind of lesson most parents are trying to get into when taking young children to the movies… like no doubt you’re right. But it’s a time and place thing not a is this lesson worth teaching thing.
Not if she says, "For Uncle Ben!" before pulling the trigger.
Why do movies have to be family friendly? I know that was the comparison, but there are so many movies meant only for adults that deal with war. Why not have a war movie with a female protagonist?
It's gonna be the bedtime stories I tell my kids about.
perfect setup though. Most of the west would watch it thinking they were the heroine, not the nazi. And then maybe at the end you flip it and make them think about it a little.
Because she's a revolutionary, and Batman is a billionaire defending the status quo. You can't have people being inspired into revolution.
A few days ago Margot Friedländer died at 103. Her entire closer family died in the holocaust after the USA, China and Brasil denied then immigration visa. She, as a teenager, was able to hide for quite a while but was finally ratted out by a jewish Gestapo spy and deported to a concentration camp. She met her future husband in the KZ and immigranted to New York later on, living a regular life until her husband died in 1997. She then started to write and moved back to Germany in 2010 (as a 89 year old!) and visites countless schools to talk about her experiences with the students and received countless medals, prices and acclaim. She was pictured on the German Vogue magazine in 2024 and later on continued her speeches until two days before her dead - her last speech was at the celebrations for the end of the WW2 in Germany.
We need more motion pictures about people like her. Not about another billionaire superhero who is unable to work in a team to save the world.
Because she was real. And much more powerful. I had the honour to attend a event she spoke.
I would watch the ever loving hell out of an HBO series about this woman. They would make fucking millions too, and people would learn about a real hero. Triple W
Yeah. Make a fucking series about them. There are more than enough people that have a powerful story that is real, not fake, and who defied danger much more than any Superhero did.
Besides: They are incredibly powerful role models. Remember how many young woman admired Daenerys when GoT was popular?
Fritz and Hedwig Aub come to my mind - they supported hidden jews all over Berlin (Fritz was a doctor), often sacrificing their own food rations for them and were almost caught multiple times. Cläre Barwitzky saved 30 jewish kids in France. Lepa Radić was executed at age 17 by German troops after fighting as a partisan, refusing to give up her comrades name under torture.Before that she escaped a KZ like prison at age 15.
We need to make real world examples like Margot and all the others.
There are countless similar people. The Danish resistance who saved most Danish jews. The Italian partisans who fought both their own Fascism and the Germans. The French resistance. The Polish resistance had people who intentionally let themselves imprison in KZ, including Auschwitz, and escaped from there.
These stories need to be told. Which brings me back to Margot - she came back to Germany because she could remember that there were people that helped her, despite the consequences. That not all people were evil and that there is always something one can do to resist. Which is a message she found more important now than ever before.
TIL KZ stands for Konzentrationslager (concentration camp).
Truly a great British invention.
They'd much rather you follow the legendary tales of Batman whose complex moral dilemma hinges upon not directly getting blood on his own hands even if it means keeping mass murderers alive to continue to terrorize the population.
Batman as a superhero is basically a libertarian wet dream: a defense contractor billionaire who may be complicit in all forms of mass violence but maintains the thinnest veneer of plausible deniability personally.
What's hilarious is even in most of the fiction the libertarian wet dream of Gotham is a dystopian shit hole.
There've been Batman comics where he admits that he knows he could do so much more to improve Gotham than by beating up criminals but he's fundamentally broken (to the point where he considers Bruce Wayne to be the alter ego of Batman rather than the other way around), so he just keeps punching things.
Yeah, while I like Batman to an unhealthy degree, I'll never miss an opportunity to shit on what a horrible character he is.
Batman gets comic books and movies because he's someone for us all to aspire to: being so rich and removed from reality that you don't realize that you're the creator of your own enemies. Being so fantastically wealthy that you can't see how you're causing a wealth gap that forces people to turn to crime so they can afford housing and food. Making it so that mentally ill people—who gain powers from desperate paid experiments, suffer workplace accidents due to poor worker's rights, or birth defects due to proper healthcare inaccessibility—can't access therapy and medication until they're already labeled as criminals and are forced to be under the state's care. And then he dresses up as a monster and beats the shit out of all of them at night. Batman and Bruce Wayne get comic books and movies because we applaud them for proving that they recognize that flattening the wealth gap will solve many problems by funding social services such as orphanages, but then missing the mark by privatizing what should be public services and funneling your largest donations through things like "charity auctions" and the ballet, an art form so removed from the lower classes that you beat the shit out of the poor just for showing up at a performance because they're obviously unable to afford a ticket.
You wanna celebrate a woman who fucks a few monsters and then shoots them in the woods? That's fine, but you gotta make a few minor changes: the woman has to be a man who is super strong instead of sexy, s/he needs to fight the disenfranchised rather than legitimately evil people, and they have to show their softer side by only permanently maiming these poor people instead of killing them. AKA, Batman.
He’s a great character of a horrible person; an anti-hero like Walter White or Hannibal Lecter. People like these characters because they give us a safe outlet for violent fantasies. They’re not completely without risk, however, because some people struggle with the boundaries between fantasy and reality.
I don’t think he’s aspirational at all however. He’s lonely and obsessive. He has many of the same mental health issues that his villainous rivals struggle with. The only difference is that he acts out his violent fantasies against criminals instead of the general public.
I feel like Nolan's Batman actually has moral dilemmas beyond the no killing rule.
Libertarian PD
I was shooting heroin and reading “The Fountainhead” in the front seat of my privately owned police cruiser when a call came in. I put a quarter in the radio to activate it. It was the chief.
“Bad news, detective. We got a situation.”
“What? Is the mayor trying to ban trans fats again?”
“Worse. Somebody just stole four hundred and forty-seven million dollars’ worth of bitcoins.”
The heroin needle practically fell out of my arm. “What kind of monster would do something like that? Bitcoins are the ultimate currency: virtual, anonymous, stateless. They represent true economic freedom, not subject to arbitrary manipulation by any government. Do we have any leads?”
“Not yet. But mark my words: we’re going to figure out who did this and we’re going to take them down … provided someone pays us a fair market rate to do so.”
“Easy, chief,” I said. “Any rate the market offers is, by definition, fair.”
He laughed. “That’s why you’re the best I got, Lisowski. Now you get out there and find those bitcoins.”
“Don’t worry,” I said. “I’m on it.”
I put a quarter in the siren. Ten minutes later, I was on the scene. It was a normal office building, strangled on all sides by public sidewalks. I hopped over them and went inside.
“Home Depot™ Presents the Police!®” I said, flashing my badge and my gun and a small picture of Ron Paul. “Nobody move unless you want to!” They didn’t.
“Now, which one of you punks is going to pay me to investigate this crime?” No one spoke up.
“Come on,” I said. “Don’t you all understand that the protection of private property is the foundation of all personal liberty?”
It didn’t seem like they did.
“Seriously, guys. Without a strong economic motivator, I’m just going to stand here and not solve this case. Cash is fine, but I prefer being paid in gold bullion or autographed Penn Jillette posters.”
Nothing. These people were stonewalling me. It almost seemed like they didn’t care that a fortune in computer money invented to buy drugs was missing.
I figured I could wait them out. I lit several cigarettes indoors. A pregnant lady coughed, and I told her that secondhand smoke is a myth. Just then, a man in glasses made a break for it.
“Subway™ Eat Fresh and Freeze, Scumbag!®” I yelled.
Too late. He was already out the front door. I went after him.
“Stop right there!” I yelled as I ran. He was faster than me because I always try to avoid stepping on public sidewalks. Our country needs a private-sidewalk voucher system, but, thanks to the incestuous interplay between our corrupt federal government and the public-sidewalk lobby, it will never happen.
I was losing him. “Listen, I’ll pay you to stop!” I yelled. “What would you consider an appropriate price point for stopping? I’ll offer you a thirteenth of an ounce of gold and a gently worn ‘Bob Barr ‘08’ extra-large long-sleeved men’s T-shirt!”
He turned. In his hand was a revolver that the Constitution said he had every right to own. He fired at me and missed. I pulled my own gun, put a quarter in it, and fired back. The bullet lodged in a U.S.P.S. mailbox less than a foot from his head. I shot the mailbox again, on purpose.
“All right, all right!” the man yelled, throwing down his weapon. “I give up, cop! I confess: I took the bitcoins.”
“Why’d you do it?” I asked, as I slapped a pair of Oikos™ Greek Yogurt Presents Handcuffs® on the guy.
“Because I was afraid.”
“Afraid?”
“Afraid of an economic future free from the pernicious meddling of central bankers,” he said. “I’m a central banker.”
I wanted to coldcock the guy. Years ago, a central banker killed my partner. Instead, I shook my head.
“Let this be a message to all your central-banker friends out on the street,” I said. “No matter how many bitcoins you steal, you’ll never take away the dream of an open society based on the principles of personal and economic freedom.”
He nodded, because he knew I was right. Then he swiped his credit card to pay me.
If you want this in novel form, it’s essentially Phillip K Dick’s Flow My Tears, The Policeman Said.
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Directed by Quentin Tarantino.
Quentin Tarantino were the heck are you with this?!?!
The main actress will definitely lead them through the forest with no shoes on.
He couldn't think of a way to fit a scene focused entirely on the protagonist's feet into the story.
He can even play a Nazi and suck on the lead actresses toes before being shot!
He is thinking about which movie is going to be his last ever movie
Hard to draw out repeatedly flirting with nazis and killing them
The movie would suck as they try to tie in a love interest and plot
… fuck me they’d humanize one of the Nazis
.... you do realize Nazis were humans, right?
This is literally one of the most important lessons from Nazism. That anyone, any normal human, loving father, mother, son, can become a monster if the circumstances are right.
God, no wonder fascism is on the rise again if the lessons of it were forgotten.
They should. And then kill 'em anyway.
That is the lesson we all needed to learn and ignored. They were humans, they thought they were good and doing right.
We are all equally vulnerable of falling into human biases and ignorance and doing horrific things if we allow people in power to manipulate our emotions. We need more stories about relatable, understandable humans doing absolutely fucked up shit because they went along with the narratives and then facing consequences for it.
There’s plenty to go on. It’s not like they had no life except flirting with and executing nazis.
Excerpt from the wp page:
During World War II, the Oversteegen family hid a Jewish couple in their home.[3] Freddie Oversteegen and her older sister Truus began handing out anti-Nazi pamphlets, which attracted the notice of HaarlemCouncil of Resistance commander Frans van der Wiel. With their mother's permission, the girls joined the Council of Resistance, which brought them into a coordinated effort.[2]Freddie was fourteen years old at the time.[3][4]
Oversteegen, her sister, and friend Hannie Schaft worked to sabotage the Nazi military presence in the Netherlands.[5] They used dynamite to disable bridges and railroad tracks.[6] They also smuggled Jewish children out of the country or helped them escape concentration camps.[2]
The Oversteegens and Schaft also killed German soldiers, with Freddie being the first of the girls to kill a soldier by shooting him while riding her bicycle.[1][5] They also lured soldiers to the woods under the pretense of a romantic overture and then killed them.[1][5]Oversteegen would approach the soldiers in taverns and bars and ask them to "go for a stroll" in the forest.[2][5]
..because she was a child soldier. She was doing this aged 14.
We tend not to glorify tales of the WW2 where war crimes were committed.
We do tend to do tales of tragedy though. She was the victim on two different counts, as well as being the hero (recruited as a child soldier, and defending against hostile invasion. Heroic for shooting Nazis).
Depicting someone defending against the bad guys while being taken advantage of by the good guys and meanwhile shooting pedophile Nazis feels like a shoe in.
Also, it wasn't technically a war crime at the time. The conventions around not using child soldiers are shockingly recent. Was still a bad thing to do, but only by modern standards.
We also tend to glorify war crime stories depressingly often, so I'm not sure that point even stands.
So Kick-Ass it, make it about her going and out killing these SS pedos who are following a 14 year old into the woods.
And we totally do, look at Inglourious Basterds.
Inglorious basterds is fiction.
Child soldiers are fine in ww2. They weren not brown people fighting for their lives. They were white people.
You know that people speaking out against child soldiers aren't condemning the children, right? They're condemning the people who take advantage of them.
That's sort of why most criticism is directed towards warlords and drug cartels.
Really wasn't a situation that needed race injected into it, particularly when no one was saying that white child soldiers are somehow okay.
Fuck you with your attitude the same as the SS
Two chance events prevented Gibson from succeeding: First, Mussolini happened to turn his head to look at a group of nearby students who were singing a song in his honor. This caused the bullet to graze the bridge of his nose rather than hit him square in the face. Second, though Gibson fired another bullet, it lodged in her pistol. By that point, she had already been dragged to the ground by a mob.
History's really rhyming here.
Because the superhero movies are thinly veiled propaganda for billionaire exceptionalism. Empowering the average person is disruptive to your peasant caste you're not allowed to talk about openly. It is such an engrained cultural taboo you can't even register what I am saying as real, despite it being so obvious that there are classes of people completely disassociated with life as you know and live it. The only exceptional people are the exceptionally greedy and exceptionally unethical. Ms. Oversteegen is a hero like Luigi, someone that stands above our station in life. Such stories are not told or popularized much at all.
There's one ad I saw where someone asks one guy riding a fancy car, "So what's your super power?" and the guy replies with, "Being rich" and the immediate cuts to epic action scenes. Just a tiny bit on the nose. 🙄
Empowering the average person is disruptive to your peasant caste
Interestingly enough, I think it's more useful to make people want to be and believe they can be rich. They'll actively defend the wealthy if they see them as future peers. I mean, I think that's why even lowly MAGAts defend tax breaks for the rich even if very few of them make over 100k.
That's Batman's superpower. Affleck is the Batman that says it.
His wealth increases every incarnation, essentially his wealth implied to be extreme, even by our standards. And one of the things he's constantly questioned about is if his funds are going to things that have real outcomes.
He, himself, is a vigilante capable of forensics that police are unwilling or unable to do. And throughout the comics, at least the modern ones, it often talks about how his lawlessness is a problem, and his approach at crime fighting is entirely flawed and has extreme consequences for only adhering to his line of never killing.
To say that comics are thinly veiled propaganda is of billionaires is disingenuous to the entire medium. It would like be calling sci-fi thinly veiled propaganda that the elite consists of scientists making up words.
Comics can also be empowering to the downtrodden.
Please don't. I know Hollywood and it will become.somr over dramatized turd piece that has little to do with what actually happened
She's like Dexter, the best kind of serial killer
This is the type of hero we need in modern times. Sadly, she would be the wrong gender for most of the MAGA politicians.
does nobody google anything before making memes?
here’s a movie about her: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt29931730/
There is https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Girl_with_the_Red_Hair_(film) about her friend Hannie Schaft.
I want Quintin Tarantino to work with the people who made the 2011 Hanna movie.
Instead of Christoph Waltz finding and killing Jews, it’s a demon child finding and killing Nazis.
Similar to Becky? Who would have thought that Kevin James would play a Nazi so well.
Becau$e rea$ons.
That'd be actual history porn.
Actually, that'd probably hit all the right notes for some people. It's historical, so they can pretend they're watching it to learn something. It's 'female empowerment' at a certain angle, so they can pretend they're watching it for the feminism. It's anti-nazi, so they can feel righteous about the violence, especially the Americans. With all that going, people could watch it 'for the plot' again and again.
Teaching us how to handle incels for 80 years. RIP.
It's not a movie because the wealthy don't want people getting ideas.
SS meaning https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schutzstaffel
Cause people with money tend to side with Hitler types.
Good advice for anyone interested in fighting fascism really.
Damn, we need a few thousand clones of her, asap. Nazis everywhere lately. Although they started to come back right around the time she died. Makes you wonder.
Now that's a war hero.
Must everything be turned into a Hollywood moneymaker?
I get what you're saying. And I get that movies only get made if they make money. However, things like this need to be brought to younger generations. People have forgotten too much generation to generation. The most insane of us have inherited it from their fathers. Hatred that bides its time until it can masquerade as order. Every generation needs to know why and what the generations previously fought hard for. So, let's just keep making movies. In a thousand years someone might find a way to access an archive and ignite (yet another) fight for simple freedom.
According to IMDb, it's in preproduction. I'm not sure how accurate it is, but it lists the director and writers.
The Red Head https://www.imdb.com/title/tt29931730/
The story of three young girls in World War II, Hannie Schaft, Truus and Freddie Oversteegen, who are inducted into the Dutch resistance to assassinate Nazis and Nazi collaborators.
I feel like this would have been perfect for Inglorious Basterds, if that movie wasn't directed by Tarantino. Instead of The Bear Jew, we would have had this woman.
since when would murican movie industry care? there will be no luigi movie either.
He will get a musical though it seems
Hollywood is one of the most unionized industries in the US.
There's a disconnect between the actors/writers and the producers. The producers just want money. They don't care otherwise, and aren't smart enough to realize how they're funding something that advocates against them. They do fuck with the script according to what they think focus groups will like. If someone brought them a Luigi script, the producers would tell them to stick in a lovable dog as a faithful companion to Luigi, and Brian Thompson's family would be shown eating DiGgiorno pizza for dinner because they got a product placement contract.
This is how stuff like DS9: Bar Association or Star Wars: Andor gets produced.
Yes.
Exactly!
Because superhero movies tend to have a solid ROI, which is why they get made: to make already rich dudes even richer. How do you plan to flesh out your seductresses Nazi assassin movie idea other than “she seduces Nazis and assassinates them” and still be a box office hit?
Find or be a good writer, get a decent script, and if you can convince enough movie executives that they’ll make bank off of it, your idea might stand a chance.
Why the hell is the text tilted? Am I going crazy?
Thanks now I can't unsee it.
Why the hell is the text tilted?
Why would you ever want the text to be not tilted!?
Just tilt your phone—how hard is it, really?
Captain Dutch
For patriarchy to work it’s really really important women are taught to be afraid of sexuality explicitly so we don’t weaponize it against men because they’re insanely vulnerable to it
I know one Dutch girl. Can confirm, an absolute man-killer, deadly gorgeous and fierce as fuck.
P.S a movie The Redhead which is in production is literally about the woman this post is about
Because if a woman does anything consequential she’s still just a “chick” to you.
No cat and mouse game of the Nazi's trying to find the partisan(s) killing their people in the woods around her community?
No intrigue of her learning who is after her and doing spy shit to stay a step ahead or targeting the investigation?
Not every aspect of WW2 was nail biting action, and we need to tell some of the less adrenaline filled important stories.
I can picture spinning it toward a "Death Note" vibe, with the whole acting all cute and concerned pivoting into heartless betrayal.